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8/15/2009 6:23:47 AM
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Halo 4, In plain sight. (I was at least part right)

This is an old ass thread from a couple years ago, before ODST even came out. Some has been proven wrong, by Halo 4 has been announced. Now we just have to wait and see how accurate my theory holds to be. _________________________________________ The new addition has been made to the second post. It involves Halo Legends (and now Waypoint), and what it means. (Look for the new link near bottom!) I would like to direct your attention first on the last terminal. If accessed on normal difficulty. [quote] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[retr] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[catERR] > CONN. > . > . > NO. THERE IS MORE. > BUT YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. > . > . > NOT YET. > . > . X.XX.713> ghost.713/non-auth/... X.XX.713> refl[/quote] Most of us assume being worthy meant accessing the terminal on Legendary. This is to me plain out wrong. On every other terminal if accessed at different difficulties, you will see different messages about the same thing, or different perspectives of the same event. Also it makes no logical sense because you need not kill anything to reach the last terminal. In Legendary it holds the following message to the player from Mediciant himself. [quote] You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow one betrayal with another? You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters. But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder than I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive. But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer. Atonement. And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions. But I would have my masters know that I have changed. And you shall be my example. [/quote] Now this is very important. The first part. What did he have to do to get there? Does [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33381763]this[/url] answer your question? I couldn't fit it in here. Now I believe that thread is completely logical, and a master piece onto itself. Now the [i] very [/i] important part. [quote]The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.[/quote] The path ahead? what path? And why is it fraught with peril? Could this have something to do with you not being "worthy" yet? Next important part. [quote]But I would have my masters know that I have changed.[/quote] Masters being forerunners. Now we know the forerunners disappeared, they had the Ark, and shield worlds, yet those are all mysteriously empty. I find the fact that there where trillions of forerunners, yet not 1 made it to the shield worlds (probably located inside the "line"). The logical conclusion? They [i] did [/i] make it in, and out.... [quote]I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.[/quote] So how could MB's masters know he has changed? Unless he knows where they are and plans to use the Master chief as an example that he has learned the error of his ways. The covenant knew of some kind of "great journey". They thought that if the rings where activated this would happen. What has begun to recently be thought of (thanks wolverfrog) is that Truth [i] knew [/i] more than we thought he did (can someone place link to that?). Now in Halo 3 on those holo-panel things truth says things such as "here we will be safe from Halo's fire!". Could it be possible that Truth learned more from MB about the rings? That they wipe out life and somehow initiate a "journey' of some kind? Could there be Truth to it after all?. "the best place to put a lie is in between two Truths" And vice versa. Did the Forerunners actually leave the galaxy to its own fate? Embarking on a journey for truth? enlightenment? This requires more evidence. But we will get to that latter. For now I want to support the Mediciant Bias theory. I believe that Mediciant is inside of Cortana and chief. This is how she knows of replacement rings and the Ark. [quote]////////////error////////////[restart search] search:[[error]].no search started. .error. *SEARCH TERMINATED! ONI.SEC.PRTCL.1A 05-032 :allow access. 0452-9 :no way. 05-032 :.please.need safe haven.offensive,the other.purpose complete.does not know. 0452-9 : what are you talking about. 05-032 : .he is here.stronger than i.cannot fight.he will not stop.rampancy.rampancy.rampancy0452-9///[[cut transmission]]\\\[/quote] Cortana chatting with MB at end of Halo 2. He wants access to escape from Offensive who has managed to survive all these years somehow. She must have allowed access. Now more supporting evidence, from an unlikely source. The Cortana Letters. [quote]Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped [u]space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine,[/u] itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.[/quote] The AI is Cortana, the Hybrid war machine is Chief. This may have holes such as being made before Halo 1. But could Bungie have had something in mind when they started the series? The only thing we can be sure of is that there is to much to be a coincidence. [quote]The Mantle has not failed! I've already razed scores of worlds - sterilized systems, routed and [disintegrated] the parasite! We're learning its tricks and strategies. We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [u]Their [/u]footsteps! There are no unstoppable forces in this universe. There are no immovable objects. Everything gives if you push hard enough. [/quote] Note "We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [i]There[/i] footsteps! Could the forerunner believe in a similar concept that the Precursors made some kind of journey? Similar to that of the covenant worshiping the forerunners? Could there be some Tru7h to there philosophy after all? Did the forerunners after firing the Array repopulate the galaxy with life and left it to grow on its own? No doubt they wouldn't have had the man power and go around and collect all there lost ships and cities etc. MB's picies would have been left scattered. But then the question is, where did the Forerunner [i] go? [/i]. Again the last terminal. "The path ahead". The mysterious legendary planet. Now there is much evedince that MB controlled the portal and changed the coordinates. The forerunner say themselves: [quote]The anomalous world is in a perilous location beyond the line. The secrets it holds must be preserved, plans within plans within plans. The inhabitants; these unique denizens, must be researched. They may hold answers to our own mysteries. What irony that we discovered this treasure, only at the end of things. But what fortune that we still had time to save them. The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose. If the plan succeeds, and they are saved, it will be a good world. If the plan fails, and the adversary succeeds, it will remain an enigma forever with no one left to reclaim it.[/quote] Again note "The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose.". That thing is the portal. It would save us by transporting us to the Arc. Now multiple portals where probably built in key planets. All to transport to the Arc. But for some reason where "special". We have similar DNA to forerunner, evedince (however little) shows that we had similar body shape and especially feelings and emotions. The relation ship between Didact and the librarian stands testament. We where remarkably similar in many ways. The letter mentions the ark saving us, and another purpose. The portals "true" purpose is where the forerunner (at least some) went. A place probably precursor. Outside the galaxy, some kind of cloud of stellar debri. What could it be? Who knows. Nothing seems to let on what the "Great journey" is in truth. Also note in the last message "nobody there to reclaim it". If we are going to reclaim it, it means we where there before. And considering our similarities with the forerunners could we possibly have a common ancestor? Could this lead to a possible Halo 3 squeal? Not a Halo 4 but a sequel none the less. Something to think about. Also a late note. It seems the Forerunner left the galaxy to us. There technology and knowledge. It looks like we weren't supposed to find the portal until we where "worthy". Ready for the knowledge and Legacy that came with it. (Continues) [Edited on 07.30.2011 2:39 PM PDT]

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  • if she did know then she probably would not have told anyone [Edited on 12.23.2010 9:32 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog Most people who play Halo don't know what a Forerunner is, a lot of my friends think the Covenant made the Halo rings, and that the Flood were a Covenant experiment gone wrong. A game about the Forerunners would be confusing enough, bring the Precursors into it and everyone would be confused. If they do sequels to Halo 3, they should be set a few months after, with you clearing up the last remnants of the Covenant; after all, High Charity and it's fleet can't have been all that remained.[/quote]

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  • okay i cant wait for halo 4 it is the best game series i have ever played. so much better than CoD, this thread is saved and i will keep up to date on all this info [url=http://www.mtgfanatic.com/?ForumReferrerID=108952]Click Here for Magic!!![/url]

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  • I have a theory of my own, the legnedary planet (wich I assume is the planet in the legendary ending of Halo 3.) could have been anywhere, as the Ark was out of the galaxy, being almost destroyed could have caused a malfunction in the "drivers" and transported the Dawn anywhere, as the ending does not show time and people just assume that it was right after MC got into the Cryo Sleep pod. One other thing, in Halo Legends, Cortana says her seven years are almost up, but she was a Forrunner AI ,as of almost the end of Reach, so she was just uploaded with human info and did not tell anyone about Reach. ( Whether she even knows herself I don't know)

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  • I think it's horrible that most people who play Halo don't even care about the Epic that it really is.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hotshot revan II Wow i can't wait for Halo 4 to see this new big awesome plot.[/quote] What makes you so sure that there will be a Halo 4? Even if there is one made, it will not be by bungie. Which will most likely not be as good. It other words, it won't be Halo.

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  • Wow i can't wait for Halo 4 to see this new big awesome plot.

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  • I'd like more of your thoughts on the datapads, especially the ones not yet mentioned after the "See No Evil" Part 1 piece done by fowarduntodawn.com. [url=http://forwarduntodawn.com/triumvirate/]LINKY LINK[/url] ...I found my brain completely melted after trying to absorb all of the information they gleam from the data pads. And all of the stuff you've written. Amazing. I just bought Halsey's journal from some guy in Hong Kong. Came in the mail today- I'm about halfway through it, and looked up something from it, and came to your article on here through google. Crazy.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nickthedck question! could they even really make another halo game? is there even any more story left for them to use? i mean sure there are plenty of unanswered questions left but i have my doubts about bungie or 343 making another game just out of the unanswered questions.[/quote] You have a great point. Of course there can't be a game without a plot. But I believe as I kinda sorta pointed out in this thread that there has been a greater and much grander plot line being set up. The "This is only the beginning" sign in the Halo 3 Iris campaign leads me to strongly believe that there is something much larger than the Human/Covenant flood infestation going on.

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  • question! could they even really make another halo game? is there even any more story left for them to use? i mean sure there are plenty of unanswered questions left but i have my doubts about bungie or 343 making another game just out of the unanswered questions. [Edited on 11.08.2010 1:56 PM PST]

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  • Epic thread, great read.

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  • Fascinating.

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  • Awesome theory. People are quick to point out the inconsistencies with the Halo games and books, but there are lots of mysteries still to be answered, and it's a lot more fun and productive to focus on those mysteries rather than the things we wish Bungie did differently. I'm hopeful that the future of the Halo series will answer some of these questions and show us more about the history of the Halo universe. Also, reading this thread while listening to the Halo: Reach soundtrack was very enjoyable.

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  • either way, I really hope that they pick up were 3 left off, as a side note, even though Jun would be very old, i hope that they(343) include him as a part of the next addition, possible an onyx type stealth game?

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  • Such a well thought enscryption i need to print this out so i can read it.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XII CIUTCH IIX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jak O Bladez Didn't read any of that, but 343 said they would be making a direct sequel to halo 3[/quote] Source?[/quote] Hardest thing in the world to find. All the wiki stuff has had this quote pulled. [url=http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201030/5936/Master-Chief-to-be-pulled-from-stasis-for-Halo-4]"We'd have to be the world's biggest -blam!-s not to follow this through"[/url] Apparently he also said that "we certainly haven't seen the last of the master chief. Make of that what you will, but I believe Frankie meant what he said.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jak O Bladez Didn't read any of that, but 343 said they would be making a direct sequel to halo 3[/quote] Source?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog Most people who play Halo don't know what a Forerunner is, a lot of my friends think the Covenant made the Halo rings, and that the Flood were a Covenant experiment gone wrong. A game about the Forerunners would be confusing enough, bring the Precursors into it and everyone would be confused. If they do sequels to Halo 3, they should be set a few months after, with you clearing up the last remnants of the Covenant; after all, High Charity and it's fleet can't have been all that remained.[/quote] Hopefully a good storyteller could make it work.

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  • Didn't read any of that, but 343 said they would be making a direct sequel to halo 3

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GRNYHAT who or what is iris?[/quote] [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Iris]BAM[/url]

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  • Halo 4 could also involve before the Halo Array was fired. Forerunner .vs. Flood combat anyone? There was the book that caught my eye that is being released next year. It is called Halo: Cryptum, and it involves Forerunner contact with Humans before the Halo array was fired.

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  • who or what is iris?

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  • 343 industries, who made halo waypoint.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hysterical Joker There are some points I agree with, and some I disagree, not sure if I'll get around to elaborating on them just yet though. But this is an interesting theory, that the Master Chief in Halo 4(a direct sequel by 343) will somehow be guided by Mendicant so he can show he has changed his ways.[/quote] Please do, this thread could use some new intelligent conversation. And my theory is MB has already influenced many things in Halo, all to save humanity and redeem himself. [/quote] Agustus, how do you envision the information from the Datapads fitting into this theory of MB being a manipulating force, if not the sole manipulating force.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OGM RECONNN tl;dr. i need a summary plz.[/quote]Not only is this spam, it's also inconsiderate and rude. If someone takes the time to write something as in-depth and intricate as some of the posts on here (this one included) are, you are or course free to ignore them. What you are not free to do is blatantly state that you didn't read it and then ask the author for a dumbed down version especially for you because you deemed his work as "not worth the time required to read it". Learn some etiquette, please.

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  • tl;dr. i need a summary plz.

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