[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HJSoldier I new this wouldn't be fair. Of course stk neven got involved because the tournament was off of matchmaking witch tons of cheaters are involved in, and terry15 is pretty good but never should have won. I have played with him many times and I know for a fact I am better than him and I know A LOT more people than that too. This tourny SHOULD NOT have been over online game play. IF YOU WANTED TO FIND THE BEST YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE TOURNAMENT ON LAN! Wow, people get more retarded every fu*c*ing day![/quote] he's right i have dont have live but from what is sounds like some of the players on live are absolute idiots. I probably wouldn't have had a chance in that touney.....well if i played well i might get to a good place in the final standings. But for a true measure of skill there should be regonal lan.....then national..the top 5 from each nation. Nations being, netherlands, england, scotland, america, canada, korea, japan. And any other nations that are appropriate. ( possibly england scotland in one lump of 5 ) Then these champs move into a live enviroment controlled by bungie so that no cheating is involved. Then they pair them up on the results and stats form lan 1v1 until a winner emerges.

That's the weird thing he doesn't. He only plays 1 or 2 hours a day. And the last months he's almost never online in halo 2 because he think it's boring.

He must play halo alot gosh i was there and he owned me so bad

We know how an arrogant American sounds. The English accent is way better.

And you're speaking out of your arse about a minority of American gamers, right? That's what I thought. Just because you played a few dozen of Americans over Live, they beat your team, and talked some trash doesn't mean all Americans are like that. Most matches I'm in nobody says anything or they just say good game. Also, how can you tell they're American, seriously.. Americans aren't the only ones who play Live, speak English, use mods, etc etc. [Edited on 8/5/2005]

Americans Live gamers are the most arrogant players of the world. They always have host and most of the live cheaters are americans. They say the've ownt you when they have host and became 50-49 or something.

Actually I know some "German" and I'm taking Spanish classes. Most Americans are bilingual, if you hadn't yet tuned into the reality of life. Almost every American highschool offers a second language class, and many Americans take those courses like I do. And, it's pretty easy to communicate with other countries when the dominant language of the world is.. uhh.. English maybe? [Edited on 8/5/2005]

Getting personal? I can''t help it that my English is not correct all the time. The most important point is that you understand it. And do you speak more languages than 1? We at least try to communicate with other country's. But you don't even bother.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MasterApu This is what I mean. Americans can't be nice to foreigners. Because America is the best and the rest doesn't matter. Americans can't think any further. The only thing they do is eating burgers. Today I played halo 2 again. We were raping some Americans. And what do they say: You f**king frenchies or mexicans. You f**king foreigners. Only because they got raped bij Dutchies yes Dutchies. Not Mexicans or Frenchies. But they don't know that because they are to obese to go to school. Think further than America you idiot![/quote] I never said any of this, did I?? Where did I say that I hated foreigners, or that I thought America was the best? Seriously, you're starting to look like you're having a erratic reaction of an acid trip. I think that the fact that you think I can't think any further as an American when you're the one who barely has a grasp on the language you are speaking is rather.. laughable. Today I played Halo 2, and I never ran into any problems, except then again I get alot of bad-mouthing from Asians and Brits and it annoys me. Does that mean I hate them altogether, no. Unlike yourself, I find that there are bad seeds in every culture, and that alot of those bad seeds have melded into our culture as well. Saying America sucks is like saying that any immigrants from Dutchland suck too, saying that some of your land's ancestors suck. I hope that makes you proud. And your many misconceptions of Americans would be remedied if you.. I don't know.. ever CAME to America and saw a few of the cities. Alot of Americans are not obese, you know weight counts on size to weight ratio without muscle mass added in? A totally muscular man could be counted as an overweight slob, so before people start making jokes about America, maybe they should realize that. I'm more physically fit than most people, I just go around on forums and play Halo 2 because it's something to do. I don't do it because I'm lazy. Oh yeah, and school season hasn't even started in Amerika, moron. Let me see these things coming out of Zyos, the Ogres, and King Turr's mouths on this forum and maybe I'll give you credit for actually saying something correct. [Edited on 8/5/2005]

This is what I mean. Americans can't be nice to foreigners. Because America is the best and the rest doesn't matter. Americans can't think any further. The only thing they do is eating burgers. Today I played halo 2 again. We were raping some Americans. And what do they say: You f**king frenchies or mexicans. You f**king foreigners. Only because they got raped bij Dutchies yes Dutchies. Not Mexicans or Frenchies. But they don't know that because they are to obese to go to school. Think further than America you idiot! Ow and halo 2 is a game without any skill. Everyone can make kills with rockets, swords. You don't need skills, you only need a program on your PC so you can give your team host bij banning IP adresses and boot some people out of games. Hacks are handful too. And off course a modem with a standby button. That are the skills you need. And if you read any interviews you know that Zyos and the Ogre's are thinking the same way. And even King Tuur thinks like this. So think before you open your mouth. [Edited on 8/5/2005]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MasterApu You know why we, the Dutchies are dissing you. Because everytime on live you Americans got the host in a game and win of us, everytime you say we owned you foreigners. And we get sick of you. Because always if you Americans got host we got yellow connections. And when we got host you just got green ones. And you are telling that we thanks everything to America. If Colombus never had his sailing lessons in Spain (that's Europe if you didn't know that yet) America never would have been discovered. And you guys would still be Indians. The third thing. You think Zyos and all that other MLG guys are the best. But why are they the best? They are only the best because gaming is a bigger issue in America and you got a lot more tournaments and sponsors and -blam!-. Ow by the way King Tuur became 4th on the World Cyber Games in Halo 1 when Halo 1 was for the first year at the WCG. And how can you see that kids like the OGRE's are better if they never play against Dutch players. Because levels and matchmaking are a -blam!- way to compare skills. Because MM is all about host. And we got a lot of great Dutch guys playing. You would be suprised of it. The only problem is that gaming is not so big over here then over there. Ow yeah about your American kid that contested the WC, terry 15, he's a cheater/booster. What ever you wanna call it. He also did it at your national qualifying. 2 clanmates of him contested the national qualify. So they made the deal that terry 15 could kill them all the time. He knew where they were, his clanmates, he discussed it. Great gamers you got over there. Always finding new ways of cheating, modding, standbying and now host stealing. Way to go America! At last Tuur won the World Championship and no one can take that away of him. Off course the WCG is the real WC. And Tuur will contest that one too. But it's hard to say who's is the best halo 2 player because it's a team game. And halo 2 is not a real skillfull game. I hope I made clear what the point of the Dutchies is.[/quote] You are a shining light of racial arrogance, bravo my friend. I'm -blam!- American and I don't do any of that bull-blam!-, yet you're accusing all of us for a handful of Americans that you played against, that's really pitiful. If you want to make a big deal out of it and say Halo 2 isn't a skillful game just because maybe Zyos or the Ogres are the best, then I guess that's your problem, isn't it? And you know a brunt of the modding and hacking is going on OVERSEAS? I might as well say that Dutchland is a bunch of arrogant asshats that only know how to put other cultures down, but that wouldn't be nice would it? And that really wouldn't be true just because they have someone like you and bullettime acting like spokespeople of the damn nation's gamers. I'm pretty sure many of the Dutch gamers would rip you a new one if you were to spout off like this in front of them. You're not making Dutchland or any other gaming regions look any better, you're just plastering their name all over your argument. Oh yes, and the Vikings discovered America before Columbus. Please stop being a whiner, it makes you look bad. Also, I find your grasp of the English language lacking. [Edited on 8/5/2005]

he's gonna own al those S T U P I D Americans, on the WCG.

You know why we, the Dutchies are dissing you. Because everytime on live you Americans got the host in a game and win of us, everytime you say we owned you foreigners. And we get sick of you. Because always if you Americans got host we got yellow connections. And when we got host you just got green ones. And you are telling that we thanks everything to America. If Colombus never had his sailing lessons in Spain (that's Europe if you didn't know that yet) America never would have been discovered. And you guys would still be Indians. The third thing. You think Zyos and all that other MLG guys are the best. But why are they the best? They are only the best because gaming is a bigger issue in America and you got a lot more tournaments and sponsors and -blam!-. Ow by the way King Tuur became 4th on the World Cyber Games in Halo 1 when Halo 1 was for the first year at the WCG. And how can you see that kids like the OGRE's are better if they never play against Dutch players. Because levels and matchmaking are a -blam!- way to compare skills. Because MM is all about host. And we got a lot of great Dutch guys playing. You would be suprised of it. The only problem is that gaming is not so big over here then over there. Ow yeah about your American kid that contested the WC, terry 15, he's a cheater/booster. What ever you wanna call it. He also did it at your national qualifying. 2 clanmates of him contested the national qualify. So they made the deal that terry 15 could kill them all the time. He knew where they were, his clanmates, he discussed it. Great gamers you got over there. Always finding new ways of cheating, modding, standbying and now host stealing. Way to go America! At last Tuur won the World Championship and no one can take that away of him. Off course the WCG is the real WC. And Tuur will contest that one too. But it's hard to say who's is the best halo 2 player because it's a team game. And halo 2 is not a real skillfull game. I hope I made clear what the point of the Dutchies is. [Edited on 8/4/2005]

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King Turr won it, it's over. Maybe they could host a LAN Halo 2 world tournament sometime. I would love to see it. I so think that Zyos or the Ogres could possibly beat Turr and a high majority of the competition, yet I don't know if they're the best. Zyos, Ogres, Turr, and everyone else in the competition were great players that could probably kick all the people who are trash talking (I've noticed that it's Europe and etc doing more of the crap) asses anyday. Hell, they could own me and I'm willing to admit it right out front. (By the way, just so there's no confusion, I am an American) alot of you have Americans mistaken for people who only trash talk and etc because they think they're the best, though I doubt you know even 15% of the Americans who play the game. I've played with alot fo Brits, Dutch, Aussies, and Mexicans, but the big difference in me playing them is that I don't like to talk -blam!- to them unless they're insulting me and my team and some of them are really nice. Doesn't mean I haven't met bad-mouthed lots of them. Most of these arguments at the end of games happen like that because at least one player from each team has something to say (usually bad) about the other team. I would love to see a totally civil game beginning to end, but I doubt it's really going to happen anytime soon. Though, if anyone is interested I'd gladly play them on XBL and see how I measure up, though I doubt I'd even be a tenth of their greatness. Ah yes, and if you like to talk -blam!- and insult other players, please don't add me to your list. Gamertag: Khronos Sanchez. [Edited on 7/21/2005]

not every one participated in the tournament. many people that are really good dont have xbox live or couldnt enter the tournament. this year king tuur won it fair and squar against some of the best in the world. just wish it was an american that won, since it is an american game

If they could -blam!- Tuur why didnt they participated in the tournament? Just face it, Tuur won the tournament and has the title now. And if u guys say u own them why didnt u won then? Its just you guys always think ur the best but ur wrong. Guys that live in Brabant just know we are good in gaming. Its a sort of energy hanging around here :D Mmm that doesnt makes any sense :S

Would have been england, but most the players are lazy bastards.

you ar so right. My friend would have won it

I'm not trying to put down King Tuur but just because you participated in the competition or whatever doesn't make you the best. My boyfriend, rush 4490 or spawn 4490, have been #1 in the world and would probably cause some damage to you. So... just a shout out. He's the best.

and yes, Terminal is gonna be Bad. Ass. Unlike that movie...

This isnt exactly a response to anyone, but id have to say, Tuur, you are a graceful winner. Props for that.

Dude take a look at those new maps they are all f#ckin sweet. Especially the one with the bullet train you can ramp over. Can anyone tel me wich maps are free and wich ones aren't

dude every one knows that

Did they tape the game? I would like to see it?