I know this comment will likely never be read by Bungie devs, but here goes anyway. This thread should not be taken lightly. It's evident that there are many, many people having the same problems. I have spent around 18 total hours trying to down Crota with no kill because of these very issues. We had a perfect strategy locked in and everyone played their roll without error. Among the 40 people I attempted it with (18 of which I had spent at least 4-5 hours with), at least 30 of these people have agreed they will not be purchasing any further Destiny content if this is the future we expect from every patch. Most of us know Vault of Glass is still completely broken with teleporting glitches still in full effect since the cheese fix, dispite Bungie claiming they had fixed the problems. These are not isolated cases though, it still happens almost every time I run vault. And now it seems those issues are totally looked over because the Crota glitches are bogging down the tech team on charge of fixing the game. My point is, with house of wolves right around the corner, are we going to continue seeing the same pattern and assume whatever doesn't get fixed with Crota will just stay broken? At this point, many people are starting to feel like this is going to be the standard and not the exception: new raid comes out, cheese is found, Bungie covers up the problem instead of fixing it, completely breaks everything else. It's like covering a hole in the floor with a throw rug - yeah, you don't see the hole in the floor anymore but all you've really done is set a trap for the unsuspecting. I totally get that Bungie has worked very hard to create these awesome encounters that get players working together to overcome a challenge together, and that's how it should be. So when people find loopholes and shortcuts, naturally they want to fix the shortcuts so all their hard work isn't completely bypassed and everyone will be able to enjoy the game the way it is supposed to be enjoyed. However, at this point it feels like Bungie is taking away what gaming is supposed to be all about: choice. Apparently gamers aren't allowed to play the way they want to play, they must play the way Bungie wants them to play. It seems like every time a "fix" comes out, it's Bungie taking a squirt bottle and saying "no gamer, that's a bad gamer, how dare you try to play the game the way you want to play it." There's a reason devs like Blizzard have a PTR to test and let the public find glitches before patches come out, and perhaps that was what they were trying to do by releasing the normal Crota first and delaying hard. But there clearly is still a missing, quality testing, step somewhere because now the raid is evidently unbeatable for many otherwise capable players. I am not delusional enough to think it's a simple fix and I know there's a lot going on that many aren't even aware of. But the current pattern of updates the game is experiencing is unacceptable and needs to be addressed before the next dlc comes out. TL;DR I love Bungie, and Destiny but I'm not going to keep paying for a game that becomes unplayable after getting "fixed." EDIT: Typage / auto word fails.