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Edited by QuidProQuo: 1/24/2015 4:22:18 PM
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Petition to "upgrade" all out of date raid gear

The Vault of Glass is absolutely one of my favorite things to do, both raids are immensely fun with the right group, but it's painful when you don't get that one weapon/gear drop that you need. Personally, I've only gotten a single chest armor drop from either raid, the VoG Chest piece on my hunter. I understand that the point in having the new raid gear boosting your light level is designed to make you "buy" more content from Bungie and is all about the bottom line, to be honest, I don't mind it. My concern is that there will be a new raid, with new gear and new weapons that make all of the old ones less useful. The newest raid, Crota's End, has its own set of unique upgrade materials. That being said, they are obviously only obtainable by doing that raid. It's not confirmed yet as to what the House of Wolves raid will use for upgrade material, but radiant material seems likely. So the only way to upgrade the raid gear for two of the three raids is to have done the newest raids. While the Vault of Glass Raid gear will set in a terminal 30 light per piece and 300 attack cap. Using only ascendant materials that we, at least most of us, have plenty of just stockpiled for nothing really... [b] Here's my plan: ● While equipped, any raid weapon or armor piece may be rerolled through the speaker/gunsmith respectively using 10 motes of light per piece, upgrading it to the new highest level possible, i.e. 36 light or 331 attack as of now. • [i]This will reset all nodes in the gear. Similar to how Xur upgrades Exotics.[/i] • [i]Upon completion of this upgrade the final nodes for damage and defense, that used to require ascendant material, will now require radiant material instead. [/i] • [i] This method forces players to use the current standard materials earned through the DLC, hence requiring players to own the DLC in order to do so.[/i] [/b] This will effectively allow, not only, a unique environment where players can have a boost to their level with gear that has become somewhat obsolete, but effectively solve the "everyone looks the same" problem. Additionally, when the light level is increased, to say 34, during the House of Wolves DLC, players will have three different sets of Raid gear to hit max level with and be able to use the perks they provide in harder versions of the raids. Please let me know what you think and if you would be interested in this process. Edit: People weren't reading the italicized bullets, so I made them bold...
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  • Edited by VictimOfNinjas: 1/24/2015 10:56:01 AM
    VOG to 31. That's all. I'd like to see gear shared across CE and VOG to get to 33 tbh like a brand new set, head and chest in VOG hard, arms and boots in CE hard with low drop rate

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  • Just let it go man, gear will be outdated and be replaced by newer stuff. That's the way it's always been and that's the way this will go.

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  • These petitions need to stop. VoG weapons will stay as is unless they increase a new difficulty level for VoG. VoG on hard is easy enough as it is with the raid weapons @300.

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    • Maybe if they increase VoG or add a new level. But until then, no.

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        • Disagree just stop it, move on

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          • I'd disagree. I'm not saying destiny is an mmo, but other mmo's leave behind the older weapons when new content comes out. The raid armour from VoG is obsolete. If you want to keep running it for the chance of exotics or w/e, go for it. But leve 36 light gear from VoG has no place.

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            • You do realize that would make new gear useless right ? Why even buy the dlcs if all the vog stuff will stay at the same lvl

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              • [quote]• Upon completion of this upgrade the final nodes for damage and defense, that used to require ascendant material, will now require radiant material instead. • This method forces players to use the current standard materials earned through the DLC, hence requiring players to own the DLC in order to do so.[/quote] Forcing people to buy the DLC just to keep the guns they like the most relevant is a bad idea. DLC should add extra content to a game, not milk out the current content too. Options like this should be available for everybody, they paid for the game too. If Bungie wants people to buy the DLC they should put so much stuff into the DLC that people want to buy it.

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                • Yes

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                • I sort of agree, I mean its going to be a good way for people with no DLC to be 32. And its going to give players more variety of gear to choose from. Every level 32 player has almost the same gear (with varying exotics). However, this takes the point of doing the new broken raid. I enjoy vog more than crota, and to be on a fair ground, I'd be happy if this was implemented on weapons only. (I'd kill for a 331 fatebringer).

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                  • Or- Seeing as what really determines your damage out put is your light level, they dump the stupid attack values and the up grade nodes actually effect the impact stats of the weapon you are upgrading. You start with 2/3rds of its available damage just like now and work your way up. It will still scale with your light level, it just won't have an artificial ceiling like now. All weapons then are then viable and none get left behind. New weapons that drop can only be upgraded from materials that drop in the raid they were obtained from. Because we are not really getting anymore "powerful" when we go up a light level, we scale down to the content on offer, a gun is a gun is a gun. If someone wants to run the game with a rare rifle that does roughly a quarter damage of what a legendary does then they should be able to.

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                    • I'm all for more variety at end-game, but there's some issues with bumping old raid content to max level. Most prominently, you invalidate the current content by bumping old content up to match it. Why would someone spend time on Crota's End every week when they could just do it for a week or two, get enough shards to upgrade their old raid gear, and then just do that instead? It invalidates the incentive to run new content repeatedly and will make people bored more quickly, especially with such a low price of 10 motes. I have like 400 saved up over the past month. Old raid gear should stay as old raid gear. NOTE: It's also more likely that the House of Wolves will have its own special upgrade material to make players run the raid more. By now, players who have done Crota's End every week have an excess of shards and energies. It wouldn't make sense to make a new raid that uses old materials as players could get to max level in a week if RNG blesses them.

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                      • I'm allll in I love my Vault of Glass gear, just the way it looks And plan for my characters art model to wear it

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                      • This would be awesome so instead of all lvl 32s looking EXACTLY the same you can mix it up and stand out compared to all the other lvl 32s but picking the armor of either raid

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                      • Posting to say thanks as I'm trying not to edit this at all! This is Trending and has alot of great feedback from the community! Thanks so much for all fo th support and know that I appreciate the honesty! Keep it up guardians!

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                      • Yes, YES PLEASE. (especially since I ahve so many damn motes of light and materials...that and I'd like to be able to use that uber-rare fusion rifle I got from the Vault last time I played hard (NOT the Vex though I got that the same run...Praetorean foil I think its called)

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                      • Perfect..#1 upgrade Fatebringer

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                      • First of all just for some background: My Mum died right when I was born, (she was actually really, really hot- but this isn't about her. I guess that's -blam!-ed up to say, but whatever.) I actually grew up with my dad's family, because my dad has all sorts of emotional issues and he bailed before I was born. So you can see, my childhood was really kind of messed up. Anyways, growing up I feel like there was always a lot of distance between me and my sister. When I was about 17 or 18 I first noticed that my sister was a hottie. I don't want to go into too many details about it, but basically what happened is that I accidentally found a video that she made of herself. I knew she didn't make it for me- but I thought she was so -blam!-ing beautiful that I watched it twice. I probably would have watched it a hell of a lot more, except that like right around the time I found the video, all this crazy shit went down and I had to leave home. (My dad's family who I was staying with got in bad trouble with the law. I never talk about it). Sooo... I was totally lusting after my sister at that point. She was also having bad trouble with the law. She was actually in custody when I left home. My friend and I went to go pick her up. When I saw her that day, after seeing the video, I have to be honest, I just wanted to -blam!- her brains out. Looking back on it now, it's pretty messed up- but I think she had feelings for me too. She actually kissed me right after we came to get her... and it wasn't a sisterly kiss, you know? I mean, it wasn't like ridiculously sexual or anything, but it definitely wasn't sisterly. After we left, we all went to crash with my Sister's friends. On the trip there, my friend sort of implied that he wanted to get with my Sister, and I got a little jealous. He's a good looking guy- and even though she was my sister- I just felt like he was competition. Not much else happened between us for a while except some maybe-sexy hugging. Pretty much everyone in my life at that point was wanted by the government, so we all moved around a lot. I'm not saying that I'm proud of it or anything, but it was kind of an awesome time. My friend and my sister never hooked up I don't think- but I thought there was some serious sexual tension going on between them. It was around that time that I got really badly hurt in an accident. It was -blam!-ed up. I almost died. But when I was in recovery my sister came to see me, and out of the clear blue sky she started gives me this awesome, slow, passionate kiss on the lips. Sadly (although, I guess for the best) nothing ever came of it. We spent some time apart... and I started to get really religious, so I tried not to think of her that way. It was actually going well for a long time- like I was totally over her. But I have to say, like a year or so after all that stuff went down, we were out sailing (not like a date or anything romantic like that), and she was wearing like the hottest bikini I've ever -blam!-ing seen and it brought back all the old feelings. Sigh. A little while later she actually wound up with my friend from before (the sexual tension guy). I can't say I was surprised. But even after she was shacking up with my friend, there was one time we were at a party... my friend was inside, and my sister and I were outside alone. It was a really intimate moment. I think something might have happened, except that I killed the mood when I told her that Darth Vader was our father and that I had to go face him.

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