I don't know if this is the same for normal VoG but is a definate for hard, there are so many new bugs that need to be fixed 1) The relic at the Templar is now useless at destroying oracles so tht whenever you go to hit the hidden left and right you fly passed them and then get marked and proceed to wipe. Also when destroying the detain shield you end up going to lunge out and are too slow to get back in to destroy it 2) At the atheon fight when ported to Venus (right portal) the Minotaur often insta-heals cause a near success to result in the rage of 5/6 in the fireteam 3) Oracles not spawning so that you get marked and once again end up not being able to finish off that bastard Atheon Problems like these seriously need to be sorted, VoG is fun but is near enough becoming obsolete, I have too many vex's and it's only worth playing now for the gorgon chest that gives level 32 exotics if you're lucky. Stupid problems like these are making less people continue playing as all you're doing is up dating the Crota raid all because it's new and shiny when there are still problems with other bits of the game and I know people will still play VoG because they want the vex but apparently it's not even upgraded passed it's original amount of damage.