Keep in mind that I've cleared Crota's End and killed Crota multiple times, and attempted with countless other groups. Okay I officially HATE randoms. I've burned through at LEAST 20-30 heavy packs today. Just left a group with one guy who wanted to be relic holder, then he wouldn't jump up till after Crota kneeled so I had to keep telling him "go, go" and even after he got up late he'd try to get in like four hits so I'd have to keep telling him when to leave. After his fifth or sixth death he has the nerve to yell at ME saying "man shut up calm down you're telling me to go and then telling me to get out too fast." Maybe if you weren't such a -blam!-ing moron we would have beat this already. From now on I will not be running Crota's End unless it's with my main group or people who I know are competent. If you have a group of friends who are willing to show you the ropes that's one thing. But if you're going to look for a group on the forums, PLEASE know what you're doing. Edit 1: There seems to be some confusion, I should alter my above statement. If you're going to look for a group on the forums and you don't have experience, at least state in your post that you don't, so those who are willing to show you the ropes can do so. I'm referring to people who get to 31 so they have a better chance of getting picked for raids and then get in and ask "what's an Oversoul?" Edit 2: Lots of people are saying "it only came out two weeks ago, stop being a dick" or "you were a noob once too." Yeah, no shit. But I ran it with a group who were AWARE that I had no experience, and were willing to help. There's no problem with not having any experience, just find a group that is willing to take you in. But don't post on the forums like you're an experienced player and then bring down a group that's trying to get through it quickly by causing 10+ wipes. Guardian tears collected - over 9000. Edit 3: I see that despite all the butthurt there are some like-minded people on this thread who are as sick of this stuff as I am. If you're on PS4 and experienced add me, PSN is shotgun42. Feel free to discuss anything related to this topic below.