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12/19/2014 4:14:45 PM
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Grimoire Card: Ir Yût, the Deathsinger (Told by Toland, the Shattered) Eriana! Let's sing. Sing with me. No, no, you rattling machine, not yet, it's too soon: we don't know the words. We'll learn the song down there. We can learn it from Her. She comes up from the deep dark places where the greater Hive await to sing it to us, and here's a puzzle for you— The song is death. To hear it is to die. To know the words is mortal. Oh, good point, Eriana, death is just a word, isn't it? A catch-all term for the failure to go on, nothing spiritual, nothing with its own quiddity. We all died once, and it did not prove insurmountable. But what if what if what if, shhh listen, what if death were reified, described in its totality, made autonomous and universal, separate from any context or condition? What if She could invoke the ending of anything? How, then, would She know the song, and sing it, without Herself dying? Perhaps they know a way to make themselves part of the song, part of something vast and burning that rots and peels into ash but never ever ends. Perhaps She has engineered this for Him, and pinned His power up against the quiddity of death itself. I am so terribly curious to know. Emerald Light (Warlock bond) "They'll believe you are one of their own. And that is the only way." — Toland, the Shattered The Fate of Eris Morn, the Hidden and the Speaker The method that Toland showed Eris for remaining hidden amongst the hive most likely has to do with her eyes. In her tower dialogue she mentions that she lost one of her own eyes and that the third eye she now has is able to see in the dark. She has spent years among them, but has returned to the tower in order to bring warning of Omnigul and her attempts to unleash Crota upon Earth. Eris also appears to be a member of some group known as "The Hidden", which ties into the Warlock Bond The Curse of the Hidden. The text on this item includes a quote by Eriana-3, though. Is the Hidden the name of the fireteam, or some other group that both Eris and Eriana-3 are members of? Ikora Rey appears to know of the Hidden as well, so perhaps it is limited to Warlocks. The Hive on the Moon are known as the Hidden Swarm, but this might be a coincidence. Eris in her tower dialogue and a conversation with Ikora Rey hints that the Speaker has a secret. Perhaps the Hidden know of this secret, for good or ill. Grimoire Card: Ghost Fragment: Hive 3 Eris: Heh. Ikora: She still laughs. Eris: It seems I have become more like the Speaker— Ikora: Secrets have their places. Here, now, is not that place. (and further along in the conversation) Ikora: You saved us all. Your sacrifice— Eris: I am still here. My sacrifice was— Ikora: Enough. Eris: And I should ask new heroes to fall… as they did? Ikora: It is why we were reborn in the Light. Eris: My Light is all but gone. Ikora: Cherish what remains, but know that you have done enough. Your time in the shadows… I can’t fathom— Eris: My role among the Hidden is an honor. Ikora: None would argue. But it’s had its cost. Your place is to gather the understanding we need to wage these wars, but your own war is long done. Let those prepared to fight, fight. Eris Morn Dialogue Ever wonder what's behind the Speaker's mask? Perhaps I will tell you. An eye for an eye, you see? They took one but I took three. The third eye sees more keen in the dark. Cursed to live, so I chose a cursed path. Was I punishing myself? Maybe. Perhaps. Thoughts on Eris Morn and Her Class There are some that believe Eris Morn is a Titan based on the following: Grimoire Card: Sardon, Fist of Crota Vell: So this Sardon is one of these Swarm Princes? Toland: In a stretch of the concept, sure. He is their lord and master. They are his generals. Vell: Sounds like my kind of fight. Omar: What isn't? Vell: Eris and Eriana said the Blades rose first and slaughtered our brothers and sisters. If the one who leads their charge is within reach, I mean to end him—to end them all. Eris: We are here for Crota. Toland: I'm afraid each disciple is Crota. Vell: Then it must be done. Know that I have faith in your Light, as I do in my own. Eris: This isn’t about faith. Eriana-3: It’s about vengeance. Vell: It’s about the only thing that matters—victory. It’s about doing what we must to end this terror. Eris: We will face them all, together. We have no time to fight individual battles. Toland: I have no doubt the Fist will welcome your challenge, Titan. When we face him, you will lead the charge. Come, Crota's Temple lies ahead. If we can breach it, I'm sure another fight awaits. In the above exchange I believe that Toland is speaking to Vell, who we already know is a Titan. Vell originally states "I mean to end him" and Toland eventually responds with "I have no doubt the Fist will welcome your challenge, Titan", Eris and Eriana-3 simply interject in the conversation. In addition Eris wears mostly cloth - I can't imagine that if she were a Titan she would give up her armor so easily.
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