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originally posted in: So... about that new vanquisher.
Edited by BigBearded69: 12/12/2014 12:42:41 AM
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Vanquisher is a suberb gun bro. High impact decent rate of fire, Its stability perks (and first gen allowing quicker reloads for short time on some kills) is not that far off from my maxxed suros regime. The difference the 1/4th stability (compared to suros) makes, and the recoil how near the end it trails up, means a user has to have that much more finesse. Besides the the new vanq starts at what 302? (not to mention if he had the resources and time it could be full upgraded) Even tho crucible is equalized/normalized he still has an edge and he could be just that much better. Try using your enviroment or nades. Nades plus focus fire at same time takes care of anyone.
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  • It would be a different story if it was just one person with it though. Lol its was throughout multiple matches with different people. The first vanquisher was great, but this one is just like dude wtf is happening to me lol. 9/10 it out guns you. It was even out gunning my hawkmoon.

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  • Edited by BigBearded69: 12/12/2014 12:51:31 AM
    Dude its new monarchy. We the new addidas kings and we know how to be sport casual dog. Ive outgunned people with hawknoon, mythoclast and numerous exotics and heavies.. ive also been killed by skilled players with said guns. The gun is only as good as the person holding it

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  • I would agree with you, but the fact of the matter is when you're going up against a player who is good with a hawkmoon most of the time you will not outgun them. There are several people with the new vanquisher out gunning everything. There is no reason a auto rifle should outgun a heavy machine gun, especially if the person with the machine gun has the drop. Then to kill them again with an overshield while they have little to no health. The gun needs tweaked slightly. End of story.

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  • Lol i outgun any handcannor. Have fun standing there poppin off im ratatatata. I thinkyoure just sore dude. No nerf to vanq and your post is marked for facial hair abuse kid. The bearded wisdom passed down from solomon has spoken

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  • I didn't say nerf.... and tbh I was having a intellectual convo until you started acting like a kid, so goodybye.

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  • Intellectual conversation by calling for a tweak... so aka nerf the weapon so that it does less damage and you can now 'outgun' your opponents - because you ran up against a challenge you just couldnt beat. Nah, it's cool kid. It's hard to beat someone from the Addidas Kings in full track suit. So you've run up against a lot of competition and they've all had Vanqs. Your play experience alone is not the only factor. What if you're having a bad day and tomorrow you trounce them? Vanq before DLC is one of the top legendary auto rifles. When compared to other factions equivalents, in my opinion, Vanquisher takes the cake. There will be others who like ShadowPrice. They will want to use that gun. Vanquisher is a great gun but not the best. It's too early to call for a 'tweak' for anything. You haven't run up against competition with new guns or factoring in guardians who will bring old exotics forward. People will have to wait for Xur to sell the upgrade. So there are a lot of variables missing from your post and really boils down to your play experience - which, you were shit. Instead of calling for tweaks, change your tactical mindset. Maybe you didn't die a bunch of times because the gun was good, instead you died because you failed to understand that your approach to the enemy was outdated. Next time go another route, crouch, change tactics so that your enemy can't predict your move. One gun isn't better than the next. One gun doesn't make you god killer. Each gun, whether you bring handcannon or auto or scout whatever... is only as good as your playstyle around said weapons. That's how destiny was designed. And maybe there is the flavor of the week(weak) but me? I ain't got tears kid. I'm too busy poppin off in my Addidas track.

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  • Lmfao so you're telling me that the Vex mythoclast was never OP? Or the suros, it was never OP? I'll tell you what, I'll go and get the gun tonight and tell you if my opinion changes. You kind of also contradicted yourself. You said something about the upgrades from xur. His upgrades mean absolutely nothing in crucible. No I wasn't having a bad day and my k/ds were still positive majority of the day. It was only the kids with the vanquishers. A tweak is not a nerf, a nerf would be taking down the power or something. What I'm suggesting is tweak some of the perks. But hey you're gonna think whatever. I actually used the old vanquisher and it was a great auto rifle. But no matter how skilled you are, a heavy machine gun that got the drop on you would've outgunned it. I'm not going to argue with you anymore, have a wonderful night.

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  • Great post.

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