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Edited by Phuzakie:
12/11/2014 9:17:16 PM
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Why would anyone oppose a solution that allows DLC & Non-DLC players to fully enjoy the content they purchased.
I am amazed at the amount of ignorance and selfishness on the forums. DLC owners are defending locking out Non-DLC owners because they think they are just whining for free stuff. This isn't an "either or" issue, the solutions presented on the forums [u]will not hurt DLC owners, nor will it hand out free content to anyone[/u].
[spoiler][b]NO ONE IS ASKING FOR FREE ACCESS TO DLC CONTENT.[/b][/spoiler]
The solution of having playlists for daily/weekly/nightfall game play modes that are tailored to the content you have purchased is simple. [u]Give each player access to the content they her/she has paid for.[/u]
[b][u]Now with an example data driven solution! Code and all![/u][/b]
[url]http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/83870272/0/0/1[/url]
The Nightfall is NOT content, it is a [b]game play mode[/b]. Just like Control is a [b]game play mode[/b]. Just like Patrols are a [b]game play mode[/b]. Bungie applies a [b]game play mode[/b] to a strike and that is what we play. The answer is not to lock game play modes, but to apply them to the content that someone has already purchased.
Yes, this would require some actual work by Bungie devs, and it will mean that DLC owners and Non-DLC owners could possibly have different strikes marked as the Nightfall at times. Who cares? They absolutely have the mechanism to prevent you from being rewarded more than once, they just need to implement it.
As far as rewards go, [u]I am completely fine if DLC owners get a higher tier of rewards[/u] than Non-DLC owners. Make each "playlist" have it's own loot tables. DLC play list gets the new gear and or more coins, I am still ok with that.
Guardians need to stand together on this issue. Not only is Bungie pushing people away, they are discouraging people from buying the DLC, not giving them incentive to buy it. As DLC owners, you should want MORE players picking up the expansion, not less.
For those who think this is only for one week, you are mistaken. [b]This will happen every day and week that DLC content is chosen as the weekly/daily/nightfall. [/b]
Anyone thinking of Trolling, GTFO. People aren't whining about content, it is about the removal of game play modes for week(s) at a time. If you take a minute to consider the solution, what negatives come from limiting the content rather than the game play modes.
Comments are open, I'd love to see the community come together on this one.
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12 RepliesEdited by Phuzakie: 12/11/2014 10:54:40 PMSo to put to rest how complicated it would be to select a different playlist dependent upon a users platform and highest level of content pack purchased, I offer the following code. This is a rough cut that is not optimized for speed, it is to dispel the notion that this would be hard to maintain going forward. [u]The assumption for The Dark Below and House of Wolves is what a player who bought the DLC would see the week that content went live.[/u] [b]And oh yeah, it mixes the PlayStation exclusives into the rotation as well.[/b] [u]The Table[/u] [spoiler] CREATE TABLE [dbo].[StrikePlaylist]( [Platform] [nvarchar](50) NOT NULL, [ContentPack] [nvarchar](50) NOT NULL, [Strike] [nvarchar](50) NOT NULL, [LastPlayed] [datetime] NULL, [/spoiler] [u]The Data (38 Rows including House of Wolves future strike)[/u] [spoiler] PlayStation Destiny Cerberus Vae III 2014-09-29 00:00:00.000 PlayStation Destiny Dust Palace 2014-10-06 00:00:00.000 PlayStation Destiny The Devils' Lair 2014-09-01 00:00:00.000 PlayStation Destiny The Nexus 2014-09-15 00:00:00.000 PlayStation Destiny The Summoning Pits 2014-09-08 00:00:00.000 PlayStation Destiny Winter's Run 2014-09-22 00:00:00.000 PlayStation House of Wolves Cerberus Vae III 2014-09-29 00:00:00.000 PlayStation House of Wolves Dust Palace 2014-10-06 00:00:00.000 PlayStation House of Wolves Moon Strike NULL PlayStation House of Wolves The Devils' Lair 2014-09-01 00:00:00.000 PlayStation House of Wolves The Nexus 2014-09-15 00:00:00.000 PlayStation House of Wolves The Summoning Pits 2014-09-08 00:00:00.000 PlayStation House of Wolves Will of Crota 2014-12-09 00:00:00.000 PlayStation House of Wolves Winter's Run 2014-09-22 00:00:00.000 PlayStation The Dark Below Cerberus Vae III 2014-09-29 00:00:00.000 PlayStation The Dark Below Dust Palace 2014-10-06 00:00:00.000 PlayStation The Dark Below The Devils' Lair 2014-09-01 00:00:00.000 PlayStation The Dark Below The Nexus 2014-09-15 00:00:00.000 PlayStation The Dark Below The Summoning Pits 2014-09-08 00:00:00.000 PlayStation The Dark Below Will of Crota NULL PlayStation The Dark Below Winter's Run 2014-09-22 00:00:00.000 XBox Destiny Cerberus Vae III 2014-09-29 00:00:00.000 XBox Destiny The Devils' Lair 2014-10-06 00:00:00.000 XBox Destiny The Nexus 2014-09-15 00:00:00.000 XBox Destiny The Summoning Pits 2014-09-08 00:00:00.000 XBox Destiny Winter's Run 2014-09-22 00:00:00.000 XBox House of Wolves Cerberus Vae III 2014-09-29 00:00:00.000 XBox House of Wolves Moon Strike NULL XBox House of Wolves The Devils' Lair 2014-09-01 00:00:00.000 XBox House of Wolves The Nexus 2014-09-15 00:00:00.000 XBox House of Wolves The Summoning Pits 2014-09-08 00:00:00.000 XBox House of Wolves Will of Crota 2014-12-09 00:00:00.000 XBox House of Wolves Winter's Run 2014-09-22 00:00:00.000 XBox The Dark Below The Devils' Lair 2014-09-01 00:00:00.000 XBox The Dark Below The Nexus 2014-09-15 00:00:00.000 XBox The Dark Below The Summoning Pits 2014-09-08 00:00:00.000 XBox The Dark Below Will of Crota NULL XBox The Dark Below Winter's Run 2014-09-22 00:00:00.000 [/spoiler] [u]The Query[/u] [spoiler] SELECT TOP 1 * FROM [dbo].[StrikePlaylist] WHERE Platform = '[b]PLATFORM OF USER[/b]' AND ContentPack = '[b]MOST INCLUSIVE CONTENT PACK USER OWNS[/b]' ORDER BY (CASE WHEN [LastPlayed] IS NULL THEN 1 ELSE 0 END) DESC, LastPlayed [/spoiler] [u]Results[/u] [quote] An XBox player with no DLC packs would get: The Summoning Pits An XBox player with The Dark Below would get: Will of Crota An XBox player with House of Wolves would get: Moon Strike A PlayStation player with no DLC packs would get: The Devils' Lair A PlayStation player with The Dark Below would get: Will of Crota A PlayStation player with House of Wolves would get: Moon Strike [/quote]
