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11/27/2014 8:05:30 AM
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The Failings of Bungie: You May (Not) Become Legend

After having played destiny for a good few weeks (Bungie shows a good six and a half or so days of in-game time), I felt driven to write up a critique on its major failings. These are both from my personal experiences and the experiences I've read online from others. This is a two part critique on the areas I feel Bungie has failed the most, though they result in the same thing. But before I begin, I'd like to say that Destiny is a good game. It's just that it could have been so much more... Destiny: become legend. Or rather, Destiny: become whatever is given to you and feel grateful. When I first went through the story, everything was new and somewhat exciting, but not only that, everything was different. Guns ran through my hands like water, and I experienced a wide variety of perks and stats and looks. But when I reached level 20, this all came to a halt. Guns no longer ran thorugh my hands. Instead, I was devoid of anything new, anything likable. Eventually, I found Xur, the Vanguard store, and the factions, and I began my quest to become like everyone else. The armor didn't have stats I liked, but I needed the light. They didn't have the perks I wanted, but I needed the light. It was going to take weeks to earn the marks to buy them, but I needed the light. At first, I didn't upgrade any of the vanguard pieces because I hated them. I held onto my energies and shards like scrooge with his precious gold, but in the end: I needed the light. By now, I've become much more pliable: I don't scrimp my ascendent materials, because more likely than not, what I want is never going to happen. Destiny has turned me into a pessimist. Whatever happened to "Become Legend?" Look at the legends in game. Kabr refused to be bowed down, and ripped the face off of a Gorgon to make a shield. What a guy. Toland pursued knowledge to the bitter end, eventually going mad. Dredgen Yor felt darkness embracing him, and decided to embrace it back. Me? I'm a nobody. A nobody in a sea of nobodies doing nobody things and buying nobody items. We run the same nobody quests and strikes and turn in the same nobody bounties. We're not legends: we're nobodies. When I look at my fellow warlocks, I see my face on every one. The one who molded my character molded each and every one of them, and we all look the same and use the same weapons. Everyone wears the voidfang vestments nowadays. There's no reason not to, and more likely than not, it's one of the few exotics they've had the chance to own. Guns? They're so rare, just like the armor. You either buy what Xur is selling or buy from a faction. End of story. You're "Legend." I don't feel legend. I don't feel unique. I feel empty. Which leads to my second point, which is the fullness of Destiny. No, this is not about the story. This is about the dichotomy of what I have been told and what truly is. They tell me that we are on the losing side. Earth, Mars, Venus, the Moon, the rest of the known universe: all are held in a stranglehold by the darkness. The earth is empty. The moon is calm. Where is the chaos? Where is the overwhelming darkness? Where is the need for guardians? Patrol feels so empty. I stroll through the hive for no reason. I collect spinmetal plants under gunfire because I simply don't care. If they tell me Mr. Nexus has overstayed his welcome on Venus, I deliver an eviction notice. Aksor broke his curfew? Reign him back in. The Psions got out? Put a belt to their backside. A phrase comes to mind "Born too late to explore the world, too early to explore the universe." This is what playing destiny feels like. The fall seems so interesting, but it's over and done. People like Kabr and Toland and Dredgen played their parts. On the flipside, the impending darkness is too far away to be dealt with, too remote to encounter. Our guardians live in a time of peace, striving not to survive, but to simply find adventure wherever they can. Guardians are not legends: they are bored. Strikes are boring. The dailies are boring. Patrol is boring. In the end, you do your weekly, your nightfall, your dailies, your raid, and your farming, and that's it. Evil doesn't care, and neither do you. You're both just going through the motions. The fallen aren't actually maintining strength on earth, they just want to look like it. The hive don't actually care about the moon, they just felt like building a fortress. The cabal don't really care that you're on mars, they just get their jollies from shooting off explosives. You're not really in a struggle for your life against the forces of darkness, you're just doing whatever you feel like. Where are the front lines to this great battle? Commander, send me to the front! I want action! I want to feel like I'm making a difference in this universe! I don't want to be an errand boy any longer! I don't want to post any more eviction notices! But there is no war. There is only mundanity and repitition. There is a faceless darkness that is halfheartedly taking over the universe. It will take over the last bastion of men not by force, but by boring us to death. Conclusion: I am a nobody being bored to death by a faceless entity. I'm the futuristic, space magic-ey equivalent of a man-child in his grandma's basement thinking he's sticking it to the man. In reality, I'm doing nothing, and the man doesn't care. I want to feel like I am the master of my own destiny, not like I'm living off the charity of Lakshmi (though she is very charitable, and I love her for it) and Lord Saladin (ty for the boots and gloves m8, appreciate it). I want to feel like the darkness truly is trying to destroy mankind, not like it's sitting on its respective planets, sipping martinis. [b]I want to feel not only like I'm making a difference, but that there's a difference that needs to be made. [/b]

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  • This is why I only play this game Tuesdays and Fridays.

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  • Well said. Bungie should hire you for your artistic mind. Cheers.

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    • Fantastic post, very well written, long but absolutely worth it. Sums up my feelings far more eloquently than I could hope to. Thanks for the free therapy. You put into words why this game that could/should have been so great, has found itself keeping company with the mediocre.

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    • Aaaannndd all this wouldn't be a problem if we had gotten the game Bungie advertised to us over a year ago (through words, concept art and trailers) where we would go out into the solar system, exploring and taking back the worlds that were once ours..... Instead we get to "stop" a "rogue?" AI (then forget about him), prevent the hive from invading earth (then forget about that until DLC), then stop the vex by squishing some oversized, unexplained, pulsing black heart thing... :/

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      • Im so sad to say i agree

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      • What destiny should do is take a chapter from one of my favorite games , monster hunter. What I mean is when we're farming for mats, make mats from enemies drop. For example vex parts, cabal parts, fallen parts, like the parts u have to get in bounties. Take those parts and use them to create amour and weapons. I feel like that would make the mindless farming feel like much more as well as feeling more accomplished. Not to mention how much it would add to the games playability. Or some variation of this would be great.

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        • Edited by mannequin: 11/28/2014 3:04:23 AM
          it was a sweaty match, rumble on the shores of time, my former clan leader and i were at each other's necks, both one kill away from victory, as my super was charged a devious thought possessed my mind, "he shall be my last kill" as fate would have it, he thought of the same conclusion to this match. and as i ran past the tunnel on to (B) platform, i saw his gamer tag approaching from the platform. as he jumped from (B) and i jumped from the other side near the tunnel entrance we met face to face, two voidwalkers with thier supers ready to kill, in the air for a brief instant. my hands shook with adrenaline for i knew what it had come to. he used his shatter novabomb, but if by mere luck or instinct, i blink right behind him. he realized he had missed and i had blinked right behind him. as he fell he turned around and saw me as i was about to unleash hell on him. "Don't do it son, don't do it bruh!" he said, foreseeing his own demise. "shhh, holder, shhh, its okay, itll be over soon.." i became legend.

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          • i read most....some...1/3rd? of this and i can see some of your points my biggest gripe is the story....cmon "i don't even have time to explain, why i don't have time to explain." and lets not forget what happened to the traveler....I could tell you about the battle but i won't...~Speaker

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          • PLEASE READ: for all of you who think that armor & guns are not tailored to your style of play, Destiny has a system where you do become "legend"... Your armor may look exactly like everyone else's but in reality they are all different. For instance I have gotten three chest pieces to drop from VOG & all three have different perks.. I have now found one I fill with to boost both special & handcannon ammo cap. This happens with forms of armor drops... The same system is in place with me guns, this game doesn't look like it is setup to have everyone buy the same generic crap from the vendors. Yes they sell good stuff, but it is all the same... They rotate some things (randomly as far as I can tell) but they are generally the same. I have several vanguard, crucible & other faction legendaries that have perks WAY better than anything I could buy. So yeah, it's a drag to get what you reaally want & yes it's repetitive, but please don't say that Bungie didn't give you ANY way to become legendary. So it's there, you just have to be a devout RNGesus worshiper and sacrifice many moons to his majesty, in hopes that he may dip into his own legend & pinch you off a piece...

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            • Its just a game..

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              • I want to be the darkness (heavy breathing)....ugh

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              • Thank you for sharing your opinion

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              • Edited by RoyalMars: 11/28/2014 4:22:50 AM
                I had two characters a 29 titan with almost everything from the recent iron banner and many legendaries and exotics. 20 strange coins the armor shader million million ship rope to heaven and the the ev 30 tumbler. All of which are suddenly gone along with my level 21 hunter who had thorn the iron banner fusion rifle and steel oracle z 11 rocket launcher. In other words i had a lot of shit on both of these characters but now whenever i log in i can only see my level 2 warlock i started yesterday. Please bungie where did my other two go i spent a very large time on these characters i would like them back. I did not delete these characters i simply logged out went to work slept went to play some this morning and all my work was gone not sure if bug or what.

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                • Great read. I agree with you.

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                • Just gonna say thank you for the NGE reference

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                  • [quote]Whatever happened to "Become Legend?" Look at the legends in game. Kabr refused to be bowed down, and ripped the face off of a Gorgon to make a shield. What a guy. Toland pursued knowledge to the bitter end, eventually going mad. Dredgen Yor felt darkness embracing him, and decided to embrace it back. Me? I'm a nobody. A nobody in a sea of nobodies doing nobody things and buying nobody items. We run the same nobody quests and strikes and turn in the same nobody bounties. We're not legends: we're nobodies. When I look at my fellow warlocks, I see my face on every one. The one who molded my character molded each and every one of them, and we all look the same and use the same weapons. Everyone wears the voidfang vestments nowadays. There's no reason not to, and more likely than not, it's one of the few exotics they've had the chance to own. Guns? They're so rare, just like the armor. You either buy what Xur is selling or buy from a faction. End of story. You're "Legend." I don't feel legend. I don't feel unique. I feel empty. [/quote] Well, I can put it this way for you. Why the hell do you care about what other people have? If you feel empty, then you probably aren't deserving of the title Legend. You make that shit happen, you don't let it come to you. Everyone looks the same as you? Be the diamond in the rough. People have the same equipment as you? Use that shit in style. To reiterate: Be Legend.

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                    • I agree with many of your well worded points. However I think bungie is moving in the right direction by integrating the dark below raid into the story unlike the vault of glass. I think this game will continue to metamorphosize into what many of us thought it would be, others hoped it could be, and I believe it will be.

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                      • U take the thoughts....and u mold them maaaan.

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                      • You may be a nobody... I'm Tu Jernts, the baddest ass Guardian around here man

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                      • It's all about money to them now. And to be honest they have given us our money's worth and more with this game. Destiny will never be as epic as halo, but it's not trying to be. It's building towards something better at least.

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                      • This post was simply amazing. Thanks for the read.

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                      • I feel the void in me.

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                      • Brilliantly written. Thank for you being literate and teaching a fellow intelligent being a new word. Dichotomy.

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                        • The sad thing is that bungie (I'm pretty sure) doesn't care what things people like you and me think. They listen to the people like them who think they did such a good job at the game. Trailers, leaked story, everything before intrigued me. What they came up with, didn't. So if Bungie does see this, make the second game what destiny was really supposed to be. Please.

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                        • Okay I'll just say it...what does dichotomy mean? I know I can just look it up, but I'd just like to save everyone else the trouble.

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                          • Couldn't have said it better myself.

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