Seriously bungie, the hard raid is absolutely absurd a good 1/20 people actually beat it without cheating or exploiting, for three weeks I've spent hours upon hours cycling different teams with different tactics to the point that I don't even bother with the gate keeper or atheon because they are too damn hard! I don't even feel like I'm a level 30 level 30's should get significant defense from lower level enemies and okay fine it's a hard raid but come on the no person on your team can die bit is bull because of all the glitches you refuse to fix!! We die every try because 1. Atheon sent one person 2. The oracles disappear 3. Minotaurs regen health 4. Portal dosent send people through 5. The ridiculous health on oracles not to mention the pathetic damage "buff" to raid weapons on the disruptor 6. Atheon hitting you through the relic shield 7. Times vengeance not activating 8. Remaining outside (every one alive) and the oracles spawn anyway 9. There's no real incentive for the head ache and hours to do it, for a chance you [b][i][u]MIGHT[/u][/i][/b] get an exotic you already have, or some shards/energy, or how about the amazing chatter white, or the worthless ships! How about the mythoclast no one uses anymore. There's absolutely zero incentive for doing the second half of the hard raid So please bungie (I've attempted it at least 50 times with all 30's) nerf the hard raid not to oblivion but just enough so it dosent take the average gamer 12 hours straight to beat if they're lucky nothing glitches or the pro gamers who take 8 hours again hoping nothing glitches