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11/24/2014 5:08:21 PM
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I ask everyone how they do the gatekeepers...if everyone says they do it 1 at a time I leave. Thats a good indicator about how confident they are in their own game
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Edited by girflush: 11/24/2014 8:39:00 PMA few different ways to do gatekeepers. The problem is almost never the strategy but the execution. People wipe one time and then want to totally switch to a different strategy after a single wipe instead of committing to one strategy and executing it.
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I agree but I notice that more time are spent wiping from doing the single portal method then the simultaneous portal method bc there are less praetorians to deal with overall when doing it simultaneously. I waste a lot more synthesis the single portal way as well
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Edited by KorruptKire: 11/24/2014 7:49:22 PMBoth way works I prefer both at once but hard to find people able to defend the portals
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can you do both relics at the same time..!? never tried this..! always do left first, 2 go in, 4 outside on portal! then right, 3 in, 2 on portal, 1 on conflux
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One in Future, one in past, communicate with each other and kill gatekeeper at about the same time. Saves so many headaches ( oracle if sync plate given up, thin defending squad, no defending middle without relics, no swarm of hobgoblins, wipes happen after two mins and not 5 mins). You aren't killing adds, roast gatekeeper, grab relic, everyone go defend conflux for 45 seconds. Gg. Kite praetorians in future portal, make the hob in the back use his shield in past ( or just kill him). If no one on your squad has done this, let them try it a couple times. If you wipe, its a faster wipe, try again. Hunters incredibly useful. Ballerhorn or IB gk, invis, skate out with relic. When I was 29 doing it i would fire two admonishers, empty icebreaker and gk down. ( before ghorn).
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Yeah u can go simultaneously and it saves a lot of time if u have 6 competent players. Did it ur way at first until a friend showed me the way I explained
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Yeah u can go simultaneously and it saves a lot of time if u have 6 competent players. Did it ur way at first until a friend showed me the way I explained
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so 2 people go into each portal..? and 2 stay outside..? one on each portal outside..?
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Yes but 1 guy only shoots a few shoots and gets out to help keep the plate up while the primary guy finished the gatekeeper and grabs the relic and gets out
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and this doesnt mean i aint confident lol, just the method i'm used to, beat hard raid in around 45 minutes consistently now (:
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Ya i think is a thing of preference and what you are used to with your team as well. I've done all 3 methods as well they all work fine if u have a good team. I do have to say that grabbing both relics at the same time takes practice and coordination lots of it. If one person down the GK to fast the other will go blind to fast and most likely die. Anyways all 3 work but just cuz some people rather do it one at a time don't mean they suck. Just saying
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Interesting. We do one at a time. I don't have a problem keeping the minotaurs away from the conflux while 3 hold the gate and 2 go for the second relic.
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I ask this as well and I normally just get a lot of *silence* At this point I tell them we should do both at once and proceed because I truly am desperate each week to find at least five 29's who could possibly complete. What normaly hapens is no one syncs grabbing the relic/someone loses a gate/people dobt know an oracle will appear. Your method would save me so much frustration, but also may take me too long to fibd a group and I would not get to finish the raid anyway.
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If ur on ps4 and are either a 30 or a 29 Titan/lock add me. I'm sorry but I am 1 of those guys that discriminate against 29 hunters bc they are too squishy in the hard raid.
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Edited by cerial-killert: 11/24/2014 5:17:12 PMPlease enlighten me on this. I have done gatekeeper one at a time, and bringing both to low heath then killing them more or less at the same time. What is the benefit of the later strategy? Edit: only did normal mode so far.
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Edited by Beasel: 11/24/2014 5:23:26 PMSimultaneously taking both portals allows u to be in and out quickly...meaning u only have to fight 2-3 praetorians instead of 6-8. So u split ur team up into 2 sets of 3. 1 set to Mars, 1 set to Venus. U have a primary gatekeeper killer and a support killer with 1 guy holding the plate. Secondary killer fires 2 shots at the gatekeeper then leaves and allows he primary killer to finish him off. When the secondary guy comes out after firing some rockets he helps defend the plate until the relic holder comes out. Once the relic holder comes out of the first portal ( usually venus) the two support from venus guard the conflict while the relic holder goes into the second portal to help/cleanse the guy in the second portal. I'm usually in and out of either portal in 20-30 secs. Once u have both relics everyone meets up at the confluxes and finish out the checkpoint
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That's not how you do it "the most efficiently". Inside: You get 2 guys who know very well how fast they can kill a gatekeeper and how to navigate one of the portals. You send one in Venus, he rushes to the back without shooting anything. One or 2 go to mars, get gatekeeper low, preferably low enough he teleports to back. Then mars person gets close to gatekeeper (ie close to where relic spawns) and signals venux person. Venus person starts killing gatekeeper as quickly as possible (ideally lvl 30, ghorn or 6 shots of ice breaker/supremacy or other). Synchronise kills this way, Needs to be within like 2-3 secs of each other. Should be noted Venux is in more danger if blinded than Mars usually cause of hobgoblins. Outside: 1 person on each plate. 2 people free roam. Only one praetorian ever spawns at a time. The free roamers should go wherever it spawns. A trick to force praetorian to spawn to the left side first is to delay opening right portal by about 4 seconds (ie stand on right plate 4 secs after people stand on left plate). With savvy people and 2 lvl 30s, you can get both relics within 2-3 praetorians. No hobgoblins, no praetorian swarm, no sending someone to defend conflux alone. Ez
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You don't need 30's to go into portals. I can solo either portal with my 29 alts and gjallahorn. Yes, ideally you want a 30 on relic. But once I come out and cleanse myself, I can simply drop it for a 30 to pick up if their not able to do the portal part.
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It's also important to note that having both portals open at once reduces the frequency of the praetorians.
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I see, this might be faster but seems to need better team coordination. Also the one guy holding the plate must be solid. High risk/high reward strategy? Thanks for clarifying.
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Actually I find it a easier strat than doing one at a time. The second guy in the portal is there for maybe 5 to 8 seconds and leaves to assist keeping the gate open, which are the primary causes of wipes in a gatekeeper fail. Most of the adds are pretty easy to evade, though the hobgoblins can be a bit troublesome for some since it seems like when you sprint and jump around the hobgoblins start going rapid fire and have a lot shorter of a charge time for their weapon. I notice this a ton too when I try to skip through areas of missions with hobgoblins on a sparrow.
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I do it 1 at a time 3 times a week on hard with my team And we usually one shot him. I don't see the issue...
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You said team. Randoms different story. Easiest way ( and I've completed all 3 methods successfully with 27 full hm clears in pugs) is have two people solo each portal at the same time. Even 29s can solo portals. Striker, blade dancers, defenders, sun singers can the easiest. If you don't have two people capable of soloing and four capable of defending for 90 seconds, you are in for a frustrating time regardless.
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Agreed our group does one gate at a time it takes no time at all to be in and out. It's a preference not a mark of any level of skill. After trying both for a while we settled on this one as it was the quickest method for our group.
