Lately seeing posts suggesting nerf shotguns, nerf fusion rifles, nerf sniper rifles etc. There is no denying that Special Weapons are dominant in Crucible. Making primary gunplay feel a little inferior to the fusion rifle/shotgun. The problem with nerfing shotguns/fusion rifles is they may cause an impact on PvE. This is a design issue due to the lack of separation between crucible balance and PvE balance. Say the fusion rifles get nerfed in PvP, they also risk getting useless in PvE which can affect things such as Raid and strikes. My suggestion is either the following: - Reduce special ammo crates spawning. - Lose your special ammo on death. - Spawn with less ammo. We're discussing about nerfing weapons when the problem could be that there just simply too much special ammo available. Feel free to discuss this further. Edit: One point we also need to discuss is how to balance weapons with ammo regeneration (Ice Breaker, Invictive etc) as if the reduction occurs, no doubt will those weapons start to be over powered. If Bungie can disable the ability in Crucible that would solve it but otherwise this is a good discussion point. Edit2: Just to clarify: Not suggesting any nerf for any special weapons other than the special ammo. Nerfing weapons would affect both PvP and PvE which is not the aim of this topic. Edit 3: Old thread bump but basically the adjustments for the special ammo in fusion and shotguns is great news to hear. Very pleased that it is being implemented.