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Edited by Nightshrike: 11/8/2014 2:24:40 PM
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[Petition] Fix the RNG Loot System

I approve of RNG

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I disapprove of RNG

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I have no opinion on RNG

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[b]DISCLAIMER:[/b] [spoiler]Are you one of these? [u]Desticle Type 1[/u] You are an apologist for Bungie and Destiny and you refuse to accept or contemplate [i]any[/i] criticism toward Destiny, no matter how the argument is presented to you and no matter how reasonable the suggestions are. Instead, you label [i]anyone[/i] who suggests anything to modify certain aspects of Destiny a "crybaby" who should "go play Call of Duty instead", like you saw several other people do. [u]Desticle Type 2[/u] You absolutely abhor Destiny, regardless of whether or not you've spent over a hundred hours playing Destiny, and this also somehow makes you hate everyone who likes Destiny. You are prone to spamming the forums with "Nerf [i][Insert Something Here][/i]" threads, sometimes without providing any good reasons why (probably because you got your ass kicked in the Crucible) and insulting anyone who disagrees with you. You are the reason Type 1 Desticles exist. If you [i]are[/i] one of these types of people, please leave this thread [i]immediately[/i]. Thank you. Now for the rest of you guys, please keep it civil and respect one another.[/spoiler] I've made this thread hoping that Bungie notices and implements a few changes that could make Destiny a more enjoyable experience overall. This is genuine constructive criticism, not blind bandwagon hate. In fact, the very reason I'm writing this is because I love Destiny. I love the concept behind the game, I'm just sad that it was executed so poorly and didn't deliver a lot of what was promised, but you all knew about that already. So let's dive right in. I hate the current reward system that's in place. The Random Number Generator (RNG) doesn't make it feel like you're earning your gear. It just makes the whole game feel like a massive lottery. No matter the deeds you've done, or the hours you've sunk into the game, everyone has an equal chance of getting Exotics, which are supposed to be pinnacle of the reward system. The rarest, the most powerful, and the most difficult weapons and gear that you can possibly get in Destiny. People may argue that RNG is fair, since it gives everyone an equal chance, but that is the very reason why I think it's unfair. In the eyes of RNG, there is no difference between someone with an overall K/D of 3.00 and someone with an overall K/D of 0.70. There is no difference between someone who has opened over 40 Cryptarch packages and someone who has only opened 10. There is no difference between someone who has run the Raid a dozen times, and someone who has done it only once or twice. You don't decide your fate, RNG does. This RNG system has also spawned two types of people. The "Earners" and the "Xûr-ners". If you aren't aware of these terms, a so-called "Earner" is a lucky player who happened to get an Exotic randomly as a reward at the end of an activity, like a Crucible game, and a "Xûr-ner" is a player who actually earned and saved up their Strange Coins to buy Exotics from Xûr. "Earners" may argue that earning Strange Coins is a joke because it only takes around half an hour to solo the Weekly Heroic or Nightfall Strikes to obtain them. "Xûr-ners" (like myself because RNG didn't give me a choice) may argue that earning Exotics through RNG is a joke. Just AFK in the Crucible and get a 0.00 K/D and you still have the same chance as someone who worked hard and carried his/her team to victory. Just because someone chances upon an Exotic, for example, The Last Word, through RNG, doesn't mean that he/she's more deserving of it than others are. Unfortunately, many so-called "Earners" don't want Xûr to sell it because they think that they somehow deserve it more and that Xûr will come around and destroy their "Special Snowflake" status. In fact, since I mentioned The Last Word, why do Exotic bounties exist when only a handful of all Exotic weapons can be earned through Exotic bounties (even then bounties are only obtainable through RNG)? The Last Word is an extremely good example since it can only be acquired by RNG, while Thorn, which according to Destiny's lore written in the Grimoire Cards, is related to The Last Word (the whole deal with Jaren Ward / Shin Malphur / Dredgen Yor), is acquired by completing a relatively challenging Exotic bounty. Despite the two Exotic Hand Cannons sharing a connection, one is obtained through RNG only, while the other is obtained through an Exotic bounty. I would agree with the other people who say that The Last Word should not be sold by Xûr, since a gun with such an extensive backstory shouldn't be simply sold to everyone by a vendor, but since The Last Word can only be obtained through RNG (which takes zero skill to get), I am hoping that Xûr sells it soon. I would rather have The Last Word only be obtainable through a difficult Exotic bounty, like Thorn, but since all the other Exotics are already only "earned" through the screwed up system of RNG (which nothing can be done about), I believe that Xûr should sell it, so those who earned and saved up their Strange Coins can enjoy the gun too. Heck, even Xûr's stock is determined by RNG. That's the reason I'm sitting on a pile of 83 Strange Coins (as of this post). In fact, I think that at one point, even Bungie, the people who love RNG so much, advocated genuinely earning your weapons by pulling off respectable feats and demonstrations of skill. [quote]As for swapping irons in the Tower? Nope. We want you to earn ‘em. You should be able to [b]tell a badass story[/b] for every sweet jewel in your arsenal. Once you earn them, the various Guardians under your account will be able to trade them, but weapons belong to the players who acquire them through action and bravery.[/quote] -Bungie Weekly Update 08/22/2014 http://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=12054 I thought that I'd also mention Shaders. Bungie did a good job at advertising Destiny's supposedly vast customization options, but what good are they when your Shaders, basic color customization, are also only obtainable through RNG? Eva Levante doesn't do her -blam!-ing job. She's been selling only Jester Apogee, Provincial Royale, Polar Oak and Aurora Blur since September 9th. [u]My Suggestions[/u] Remove Exotics from RNG loot tables except the Weekly Heroic and Nightfall Strikes and the Raids (like the Vex Mythoclast in the Vault of Glass). In the future, make a larger portion of Exotics able to be obtained through Exotic bounties, and make these bounties have a decent chance to drop for players with decent scores in the Crucible. If possible, add a new type of currency that you can earn from completing Raids, similar to Vanguard and Crucible Marks, that can be spent on Raid gear. This means that RNG won't -blam!- around with that final piece of Raid gear that you just can't seem to get. Increase the chances of Legendary gear dropping for the top two players in the winning team and players who get "On the Bright Side" medals and "Reign of Terror" medals. Make Eva Levante rotate her stock of Shaders daily, otherwise she's useless. Make her Shaders cost 7 Motes of Light each, like the Speaker's Emblems. As for Xûr, [b]True Reclaimer[/b] has written a pretty good thread titled [i]How To: Fix Xur - EASY[/i]. http://www.bungie.net/ga/Forum/Post/76343256/0/0 What do you guys think? I'm perfectly fine with you guys disagreeing with me, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Don't worry, I'm not like those stupid Desticles who'll hurl a volley of profanities at you for disagreeing. Voice your opinions, and place your vote. Thank you all for reading. And Bungie, if you do read this, thank you.

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    [quote]Here's a complaint for ya 1.Error Code: Caterpillar 2.Error Code: Hawk 3.Bad Juju was still a waste of time in terms of the bounty. 4.The hardest weapon to get was reduced to a smoldering pile of shit. 5.Campaign is still on par with a demo. 6.Content that was showcased in game trailers is still missing. 7.Game is still not fully explorable like you said it would be. 8.Crucible still has only like 2 or 3 game modes. 9.Crucible is still a shotgun fest. 10.Crucible still sucks. 11.Game doesn't start after level 20 like you said it would, it actually practically stops. 12.Queen's Wraith was a useless event. 13.Iron Banner was supposed to give higher levels an edge. Everyone was equal. 14.Still no matchmaking for VoG. 15.Still only 6 Strikes. 5 if you have Xbox. 16.RNG. 17.RNG. 18.RNG. 19.Nerf fest. 20.Nerfing is OP, needs nerf'd. 21.No voice chat. 22.Can only equip 2 exotics at once. 23.95% of armor looks the same. 24.Ships are useless. 25.Grind. 26. *4 weeks later* GRIND! 27.All wildlife in the galaxy is extinct. 28.Where did Marty go? 29.DLC= Developer Locked Content 30. DLC exclusives. 31.*Has to glitch to get into DLC areas*......*Banned* 32.Banned. 32.Banned cuz lol. 33.Lol 34.*Better than everyone in game* Gets a crap gun. *AFK* Gets exotic. 35.Bungie: Ignores questions everyone asks. Answers questions no one asked. 36.Error Code Caterpillar x100 37.Caterpillar attack! 38.*Everyone has connectivity issues* Bungie: Lol, problem is on your end. 39.Enough error codes to make a zoo. 40. Archon stuck is cell. A) Push off cliff B) Call Queen to reclaim him C) Release him and lose guardians trying to kill him ....... 41.RNGesus. All hail shit loot! 42.Legendary engram turns into a green. How did this make it into the final product? 43.Final boss is 3 mini bosses that we practically already fought. 44 Bungie needs nerf'd. 45.RNG Bungie's payroll. 46."The fight takes place out there" Well while you're hear could you tell me- *Vanish* 47.Bladedancer 48.I could tell you.....but I still have DLC to sell you. 49.Light level. 50.Character is supposed to be customizable.......lol jk light level ftw 51.RNG 52. I've already listed more than 50. 53. World of Halo Lands. 54. Dinklebot 55. Can unlock highly secured, high tech golden age doors in seconds. Takes 10 minutes to disarm old ass broken down terminals. 56. "Hold on! Defend me while I trip this alarm!" 57. Bungie: Ugh, need ideas for bosses! Nub: Ooooh! Oooooh. Take existing monsters and make them huge! Bungie: GENIUS! 58.Grimoire cards not in game. 59. Almost to 60! 60. Made it to 60! 61. *Camps with shotgun* "Git gud breh!" 62. *Makes 500m* *Buys 500,000,000 1$ hookers to jerk them while they make the game worse* Keep re-quoting this until Bungie acknowledges the majority of their fans who are upset. -Notice how Destiny is rated 5.6 for Xbox on Metacritic, and 6.4 on Playstation? -I've never been so excited for a game, and now I'm done playing it until the DLC is released, which I wouldn't have purchased if I knew this game was going to be such a let down.[/quote]

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