Titans have no Solar damage.
Warlocks have no Arc Damage.
WIZARDS have solar shields.
KNIGHTS have arc shields.
If there are too many titans (like right now) they will get overwhelmed by WIZARDS.
If there are too many Warlocks they will get overwhelmed by KNIGHTS.
Both classes are slow and in order to stay alive you need speed because every enemy has automatic rocket blasters.
Based on experience... I would guess they will be spawning alot more of both enemies than the minotaur's in the Vault of Glass who only spawn once every minute.
I also think the next Raid will be alot more face paced based on the leaked info that talks about escapes sequences.
[b]Edit:[/b] People say that weapons will help the most. But that being said. A hunters entire being is a weapon against the Hive...we will Excel where you Fail.
[b]Edit:[/b] This brought out all the egos that cheesing has caused. So to sum it all up. Hunters will be the most usefull in the next Raid compared to the other classes who will be less use full in comparison but we'll let them sit back and pick adds while Mommy and Daddy (MY HUNTERXHUNTER BROTHERS AND SISTERS) do all the work. No offense but this was comming.
[b]Also...those subclasses are not coming anytime soon if not at all. If they were you would know all about them....from a marketing perspective.[/b]
[b]Final Edit:[/b] Okay. This post was made to bring out all the idiots who talk down on a class saying it's usless. NO CLASS IS USLESS. If you don't see that you beyond help and I won't waste my time reviving you (get it cause you probably think hunters are only useful for invisa revives). No class is better than the other bungie did this on purpose because there is no go to class just like there is no go to weapon (mines is hawkmoon). Destiny is an even playing field and our community is should be the same. THANK YOU!
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I thought they were going to add a third subclass when the doc comes out. So titans have solar, warlocks have ark and hunters will have void.
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It's all based on weapons man.
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Lol tell me how ur hunter will save ur whole team from being killed,if u can protect them better than my defender titan can u may have a point but defender titans will never be useless.
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Yeah...Thats why there are primary weapons that do Solar/Void/Arc Damage. OMG, my grenade and super can't 1 shot stuff, my class is now useless - Said nobody in VoG Ever. There's no Void subclass for Hunters and yet my soon to be level 30 hunter does just fine there. So long as people have maxed out Vision of Confluence, Fatebringer/Praedyth's Timepiece, Hezen Vengeance, Ice Breaker, Epitaph and other weapons, there's no problem just because a class's Grenade/melee/super don't do the correct damage type. If you think that, you must not raid much.
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Edited by Typhoon: 11/13/2014 5:57:27 PMheh and to think that hunters have solar and arc damage...... golden gun = useless due to the wizards having solar shields ... arc blade or whatever = useless close quarters AND knights have arc shields... guess someone -blam!-ed up thinking about this TITANS AND WARLOCKS BOTH HAVE VOID DAMAGE STFU
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[quote]Based on experience[/quote] That's laughable!
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So much wrong with this. We have weapons with elemental dmg and self revive, and bubble shield are still effective, more than your puny arc knife or glowing pea shooter
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Warlock/hunter takes groups/high hp wizards Titans/hunter take groups/high hp knights. Everyone uses elemental weapons to take the shield down quickly. Sorted.
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as a titan, when i drop a couple of slammy fists, everything seems to disppear!! end of story!
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This logic is flawed. Hunters aren't useless, they can still wield a weapon. Only way a class will be useless is if they update so one class will not be able to shoot a weapon. Which won't happen.
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Edited by Taniel Two Shot: 11/13/2014 6:05:29 PMVision of Confluence and patience & time make any class useful. At least a warlock can self rez & a titan can protect his team.
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All classes are useful. At the end of the day, it comes down to player skill.
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so the solution to this problem is ...... having one of each class leveled to level 28 or higher problem solved
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Specials are hardly what matters against shields. You need weapons with elemental damage.
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[quote]People say that weapons will help the most. But that being said. A hunters entire being is a weapon against the Hive...we will Excel where you Fail.[/quote] Hmm how about you go into the next raid with your group of hunters and take out the Hive with your fists since your entire being is a weapon against the Hive. The moment I see that will be the moment I praise you and your post. Until then, you are quite the idiot.
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Knights don't have arc shields outside of epic modifier. /Thread.
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If only there were weapons with elemental damage...
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Sounds like a grumpy hunter to me. Tell that to my sticky solar grenades, maxed vision of confluence, ice breaker, patience and time, etc. just because hunters got the sh!t end of the stick this raid doesn't mean they'll dominate the next or that the other two classes will be obsolete.
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Titan. Have a Near Maxed Vex. Solar Damage all Set.
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Arrrr because I use my void class to do the current raid :/ it's about the weapons you idiot. And I use the sun singer class to do raid just incase you probably don't sarcasm...
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Grenades and melee are useless if you are dead :) Self rez life
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XD why is this guy so mad? Even if what you are saying is true which it is not Titans have the ward of dawn and warlocks have the self res so yea besides I sought huntards will survive long they got shot for armor lol.
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Knights only have shields in epic games. Like nightfall, the last raid didn't have epic on or the harpies would have had arc shields. So I would think that we only have to deal with fire shields. Warlocks are going to run sunsinger because who wouldn't want to get back up. That only leaves Titans as out of the class loop. The hunters golden gun will probably be awesome for the Wizards. There will probably be a group of people that say VoC maxed is must for raid, or maybe VM.
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Oh so you mean my maxed Ice Breaker, Mythoclast, Vision of Confluence, and Gjallarhorn don't do solar damage? Yeah, you're an idiot.
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Weapons of light > everything
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I don't quite get how weapons of light/self Rez could be useless