Titans have no Solar damage.
Warlocks have no Arc Damage.
WIZARDS have solar shields.
KNIGHTS have arc shields.
If there are too many titans (like right now) they will get overwhelmed by WIZARDS.
If there are too many Warlocks they will get overwhelmed by KNIGHTS.
Both classes are slow and in order to stay alive you need speed because every enemy has automatic rocket blasters.
Based on experience... I would guess they will be spawning alot more of both enemies than the minotaur's in the Vault of Glass who only spawn once every minute.
I also think the next Raid will be alot more face paced based on the leaked info that talks about escapes sequences.
[b]Edit:[/b] People say that weapons will help the most. But that being said. A hunters entire being is a weapon against the Hive...we will Excel where you Fail.
[b]Edit:[/b] This brought out all the egos that cheesing has caused. So to sum it all up. Hunters will be the most usefull in the next Raid compared to the other classes who will be less use full in comparison but we'll let them sit back and pick adds while Mommy and Daddy (MY HUNTERXHUNTER BROTHERS AND SISTERS) do all the work. No offense but this was comming.
[b]Also...those subclasses are not coming anytime soon if not at all. If they were you would know all about them....from a marketing perspective.[/b]
[b]Final Edit:[/b] Okay. This post was made to bring out all the idiots who talk down on a class saying it's usless. NO CLASS IS USLESS. If you don't see that you beyond help and I won't waste my time reviving you (get it cause you probably think hunters are only useful for invisa revives). No class is better than the other bungie did this on purpose because there is no go to class just like there is no go to weapon (mines is hawkmoon). Destiny is an even playing field and our community is should be the same. THANK YOU!
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I imagine the third sub class will fix these problems for the next raid, no?
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OH SO WHAT DO US TITANS AND WARLOCKS DO? THROW OUR GUNS DOWN ON THE GROUND AND WATCH THE LITTLE HUNTERS GOLDEN GUN ONE WIZARD AT A TIME?!?!?!? PFFT -blam!- THAT, we will be ICE BREAKING, VISION OF CONFLUENCE THE -blam!- OUTTA THOSE WIZARDS PRETTY SURE A WARLOCK CAN DO SOME PRETTY GOOD DAMAGE ALSO.... SO LAY ON A BED, SPREAD YOUR FAT ASS AND SHOVE THIS POST RIGHT UP YOUR -blam!-ING ASS... STUPID -blam!-ING POST AND THIS SHIT WAS POSTED TWICE YESTERDAY, EXACT SAME POST WORD FOR WORD...
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A maxed Vision of Confluence, Thunderlord, and special of my choice and I'm set.
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Uh, my icebreaker does solar... my swarm does arc (as does another sniper I have)... oh, and I shouldn't forget to mention my striker. We should be fine.
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Edited by Britton: 11/14/2014 1:00:49 PMYeah in priority of importance of element damage type it goes 1. Primary 2. Secondary 3. Grenade 4. Heavy ( heavy damage is useful pretty much regardless of the element i.e. gjallahorn on praetorians) 5. Super ability So the higher on the list it is the more paying attention to the element is helpful. Also the only time hunters arent useful in the raid is if you're cheesing. [i]disclaimer: this is merely a thought out opinion[/i]
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Have all 3 classes level 30 so meh.
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Well the raid hasn't come out yet and you can't really say anything till its out and even then each class has its good and bad things but if you know what you're doing, you'll be okay.
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That's where Icebreaker comes in >:D
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Is this kid dumb or dumb. He says Titans don't have solar but they have arc. He says Warlocks don't have arc but they have solar. What the hell is the logic in this. Each class has its benefits but weapons is really where it's at. We don't melee bosses and grenades have cool downs. This post is the most dumbest shit I have seen. Thanks for the laugh you heterosexual.
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Edited by CRISPR 001: 11/14/2014 4:54:06 AMI've been stocking up on arc and solar weapons just for the dlc. So if I'm a warlock that can self revive, has solar sticky grenades and maxed out plan c (arc), voc (solar) vex mytho (solar) gjal (solar) fatebringer (arc)...don't tell me that a group would prefer a hunter over my warlock for a raid run. How do you kill enemies? Oh with weapons. Looks like I'm set then. Oh yeah, and if I die, I undo that death :)
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Weapons do far more to take down shields than grenades and supers. Also, Knights only have shields with Epic modifiers. I'm sorry a raid team wouldn't take you because you're a hunter. They either didn't know what they were talking about or they've played with you before and thought you were bad. Hopefully you'll find some teams that will take you.
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Titans have arc damage on their striker class Plus weapons with those element type damages would also come in handy. As well as the raid weapons from it. I could be wrong but doesn't the sunsinger warlock class do solar damage?
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Never read as much spew as I did now. Hunters being useful... Rolf! You wish I got patience n time arc damage and unfriendly giant as solar damage. An arc damage gun or solar damage is probably going to be released like how atheons epilogue was released. Hive boss is gonna get -blam!-.
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Thankfully i have all 3 classes
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This post was made to bring out all the idiots who talk down on a class saying it's usless. NO CLASS IS USLESS. If you don't see that you beyond help and I won't waste my time reviving you (get it cause you probably think hunters are only useful for invisa revives). No class is better than the other bungie did this on purpose because there is no go to class just like there is no go to weapon (mines is hawkmoon). Destiny is an even playing field and our community is should be the same. THANK YOU!
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But then again it's the weapons that matter. So you lose :)
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Shotgun + crotch punch kills every hive easy! Proven fact! Many wizard and the high ranking witch agrees! Shotgun beats everything!
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Get with the program you jack wagon! But seriously. This is stupid. Why are you trying to defend what class you are when you should be, I don't know... Playing the game? Quit worrying about what class is better. I like the Titan the best, but I'll take hunters in the VoG over warlocks any day. Does that mean the warlock sucks? No, that just means I prefer the style of play that comes with the hunter and Titans. Get over it people.
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Blade dancer won't be usless. I blade dance minotaur's all the time along with goblins sooo....ummm...yep.
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Hmm Fatebringer and confluence Ice breaker/ arc fusion Thunder Lord and ghallohorn... Enough said..
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As a hunter, we do not approve of this kid...:/
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Titan with raid scout rifle (solar) Warlock with raid hand cannon (arc) PROBLEM SOLVED
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Hunters are still too squishy. Knights only have shields on epic
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Well considering the hunters would be killed before they could even fully use their arc blade and the solar gun can't do jack shit to high level enemy's
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Just because grenades and supers don't insta kill tough enemies, doesn't mean rockets, fusion, mg, or snipers won't. Class element is pretty negligible, unless there is a huge swarm of shielded enemies.
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Aside from invisibility bladedancers are almost always useless (sorry twinkle toes). Gunslingers will be on wizard duty. And knights? Everyone's just gonna fusion rifle them anyways. Warlocks will be useful because of self res and excellent crowd control. Titans will be useful by buffing everyone and providing a safe haven for all.