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Edited by Tut813275:
11/15/2014 12:24:42 AM
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Titans and Warlocks will be less useful in next Raid.
Titans have no Solar damage.
Warlocks have no Arc Damage.
WIZARDS have solar shields.
KNIGHTS have arc shields.
If there are too many titans (like right now) they will get overwhelmed by WIZARDS.
If there are too many Warlocks they will get overwhelmed by KNIGHTS.
Both classes are slow and in order to stay alive you need speed because every enemy has automatic rocket blasters.
Based on experience... I would guess they will be spawning alot more of both enemies than the minotaur's in the Vault of Glass who only spawn once every minute.
I also think the next Raid will be alot more face paced based on the leaked info that talks about escapes sequences.
[b]Edit:[/b] People say that weapons will help the most. But that being said. A hunters entire being is a weapon against the Hive...we will Excel where you Fail.
[b]Edit:[/b] This brought out all the egos that cheesing has caused. So to sum it all up. Hunters will be the most usefull in the next Raid compared to the other classes who will be less use full in comparison but we'll let them sit back and pick adds while Mommy and Daddy (MY HUNTERXHUNTER BROTHERS AND SISTERS) do all the work. No offense but this was comming.
[b]Also...those subclasses are not coming anytime soon if not at all. If they were you would know all about them....from a marketing perspective.[/b]
[b]Final Edit:[/b] Okay. This post was made to bring out all the idiots who talk down on a class saying it's usless. NO CLASS IS USLESS. If you don't see that you beyond help and I won't waste my time reviving you (get it cause you probably think hunters are only useful for invisa revives). No class is better than the other bungie did this on purpose because there is no go to class just like there is no go to weapon (mines is hawkmoon). Destiny is an even playing field and our community is should be the same. THANK YOU!
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Solution for Titans that makes your thread invalid: - primary equip a VoC. High damage fully automatic SOLAR damage scout rifle. - Defender subclass to boost that survivability to compensate lack of speed and provide team with shield that also boosts. - titan jetpack still quick and effective escape tool and can out maneuver hunter jumps with ease. - equip secondary fusion rifle with arc damage or use striker subclass for arc grenades that do multiple aoe hits. Just a few things to point out.
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Doesnt matter to me. I have a hunter and warlock...
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Striker+Voc+icebreaker+TheSwarm.
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If the hunters golden gun got the time vengeance boost in this raid we would be very useful.
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My sunsinger with fatebringer, plan c, and arc the swarm just proved you wrong.
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Edited by YahyaTV: 11/15/2014 1:31:34 PMAll three character types are useful in the current raid. All three character types will be useful in the next raid. It's how you use your characters subclass to your advantage, in the current raid Hunters excel in the portals and as relic holders (due to their agility), can easily GG hobgoblins in Mars, and GG Praetorian in Venus. GG Oracles and Supplicants.
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4 RepliesA sunsinger with the mythoclast or the fatebringer will still be just as useful as your precious hunter. Its called the master race for a reason, who else gets a second chance in the hard raid? Self res, no matter what enemies you face, will always be one of the most useful things in the game. As for titans I think I striker titan will not be amazing but not as useless as you say they will be, and defender titans are never useless in my opinion with the portable safe dome. All in all hunters are still going to be the less sought after raid members because they bring nothing to the team aspect of the raid. Sunsingers have the self res to help keep the hard raid alive and titans have the bubble shield for a quick safespot in bad situations. What do hunters bring? A pretty little golden gun with 3-4 shots, not even a one hitter on higher level enemies, or a little electric blade that you have to put yourself into the middle of combat to even use.
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People keep telling me that my Hunter is useless but they always seem to need me on their Fireteam. Also the throwing knives are a blessing in PvE and PvP.
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Warlocks have the best set of tools in the game. I'm not saying they're better than the others, but they excel at everything. Pve, pvp, raid, clutch team revives, long range, short range, zone control, you name it, warlocks got it. Except arc damage, but that's why the traveler made hunters and titans. #nohate #justlovewarlocks
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3 RepliesEdited by Chapstick: 11/15/2014 3:18:57 AMInstead of putting "hunters will be more useful in the next raid" you put "titans and warlocks aren't going to be as useful in the next raid" this just shows everybody your butt hurt
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I love it when the say we're useless in the raid but in the crucible we are overpowered.
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So your telling me if I use Fatebringer as a primary or vision of confluence. icebreaker/patience and time in the next raid I will be useless. That doesn't even make sense
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Because its impossible for me as a titan to kill a wizard. Get the -blam!- out of here with that shit. Weapons are your main damage source. I play all classes and supers aren't even necessary in the current raid to beat it. Why look at it as one class is better than another in a raid. It doesn't take 1 person to beat a raid it takes a team of people working together. This kinda shit makes people not want to raid with you.
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1 ReplyEdited by PodgerCakes YUM: 11/15/2014 6:55:50 AMWhy? it's not like void grenades did anything to praetorians and bubble shields don't do damage .... And you do realize most of us have voc or fatebringer ....also I have no problems killing anything with any class I have all 3 classes lvl 30 and the only difference from any class is a super . If you say a class is better than any other class then you obviously are just bad at the game...
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I don't see how......I mean you can only have ONE subclass at a time, even if you're a hunter and have a solar and an arc subclass, it didn't matter because you could only use one of them at a time.....same goes for other classes, warlocks can just stay solar, and titans can just stay arc, in fact it'd be more efficient that way instead of having to switch back and forth (for a hunter)
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1 ReplyFine don't go inside my bubble in the next raid then maybe your fast enough to avoid hordes of wizards lol (doubt it)
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Nah, hunters are pretty useless in the raid. Shut up and hold relic during the Templar fight and know your role.
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I dont know about u but i have weapons that do solar and arc damage
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Edited by Seanarcher87: 11/15/2014 6:34:42 AMAren't they supposed to release a new sub class for each class next DLC? Also warlocks have a void class now but they hardly use it in VoG... That right their proves it doesn't matter. EDIT However I do like to believe games usually favor the lower class at expansions (DLC) so you might be right. Either way the best raid group is a mixed raid group
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Titans still have the bubble shield which is better then anything the hunter can do and the warlocks can still revive themselvs...at best all a hunter can do is kill 3-5 enemies with their super which isn't to impressive as far as team shielding and self revive are...and don't even get me started on all have the solar and arc weopons that we have....hunters are still useless nice try though
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Well if Crota is a mere Knight hell charge a Titans shield and double slap a self-reviving Warlock. BladeDancer may come to be the most useful ability in this Raid.
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My Titan has plenty of solar damage. Max voc, max icebreaker, max hezen vengeance.
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1 ReplyEdited by antifail: 11/14/2014 3:29:42 AMWarlocks.... Conduits to and masters of the light. Single guardians able to summon unending pits of flame and darkness. Warriors who can cheat death and engage foes in a war of attrition. Guardians who set entire stages ablaze like the vikings of old, Born of the cold darkness of the void, bathed in white hot flames, warlocks are comfortable in even the most intense extremes. Warlocks taught the hunters how to blink and how to kill, Now, we teach them how to survive. Watch as the warlocks affinity for the sun multiplies, solar weapons feeding solar grenades, powering a solar super. Behold the radiance, as that super boosts the power of allies and our own weapons Do not be blinded by the light fed through our bodies as our minds ascend, but above all else, young hunter, when we bend reality, remember this: "The floor is Lava, do not fall in."
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So if a hunter sees 1 knight it's going to switch to blade dancer and gunslinger for every wizard the whole game? Sounds exhausting.
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Uh.... Warlocks have a Solar subclass Titans have a Ark subclass.
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This has to be the most stupid post i have seen... Hunters are not as helpful as warlock or titans not because of the elemental damage their subclass has but because the class itself is totally based for offensive play, on the otherhand, warlocks and titans are alot more effective with helping out the team, with the bubble and self revive. This is why there are so many titans and warlocks in the current raid. If it were so heavily elementaly based why would warlocks not ise the voidwalker class in the current raid??? Huh? Its because their sub class is alot more helpful. This will not change in the next raid but will only become more helpful as they can now deal EXTRA damage wilst they use their self revive... Meh.
