I want to preface this by saying I'm not an "earner". I don't care that Xur is selling PnT. It was the first exotic I got and it happened after a round of the Cryptarch turning my blues into greens. I had leveled him up and was cursing his mother on my way to the postmaster when PnT popped up from the Cryptarch package! Anyways, if you're considering buying it, here's my thoughts:
Icebreaker is probably the better overall gun. However, PnT does shine in a few areas. The stability, first of all, is excellent. You can pump six shots into a boss crit zone and it barely flinches. It melts Arc shielded majors like they were level 2 dregs. The Summoning Pits Nightfall with arc burn was a breeze and Phogoth will be your bitch. The invisibility is a "meh". It triggers after a few seconds of ADS and disappears after your first shot. I'd love to see it last the whole time since as I said, the stability lets you empty the magazine into a boss in no time. Don't think you'll be completely invisible in PvP with the sights up either. The shine from the scope is still there and anytime I've seen a sniper in PvP, I've seen the shine and rarely the player themselves. PnT also allows your radar to stay active while aiming which is better than the invisibility perk anyways.
In summary, it's a pretty good PvP sniper due to the stability and the radar while ADS. Icebreaker is assuredly the better PvE gun unless there is arc burn. Hopefully posting something constructive in the forms will earn me enough Karma for Xur to sell Gjallarhorn next week!
See ya Starside, Guardians.
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I just prefer the Arc Damage. I have the Raid Sniper for Void, and I wouldn't mind the Ice Breaker for Fire. Keeping good, strong weapons for situations where elements are needed, it's good to have. Plus, ya' can't go wrong with a bit of cloaking.
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Great stuff man!! I wish others would take a page out of your book. Instead of whining and crying how you are a "earner", you offered your knowledge and opinion about P&T. Well Done!
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Waited weeks for it,bought it this morning and got it as a tiger strike reward a couple of hours later.Still,3 ascendant energy for the upgrades i suppose lol
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I had it too, and I agree on all points. I destroyed mine because I didn't really have a use for it. Ice breaker for me.
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Damn. A useful, informative, friendly, helpful post on the forum! *faith in the community restored somewhat*
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What a level headed, rational post! Kudos!
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Im totally down with the Gjallarhorn being sold next. I want one bad. Ive seen what those things can do and it aint pretty
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Thanks for the assessment! I have been going back and forth as i have Icebreaker and run Thorn/Comedian/Rocket (with extra sliding perk) as my default set up in PvP. If you had a near maxed out grape arc sniper, is P+T worth it for someone of limited sniper use? My guess is "no:"
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Nice post. Its refreshing to not see something all negative on the forums.
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nice little review u got there. really liking the icebreaker but with so many coins to spend, 150 atm bought the PnT anyways. ^^
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We need more people like you on the forums, the type that talks about strengths and not so much weaknesses.
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I second Xur selling Gjallarhorn next week.
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I earned mine from nightfall. All those Xur welfare receivers can suck it!
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PnT's active camo effect only lasts for awhile even if you don't fire a shot. I want to say it's about 15 seconds or so then the camo drops. That, paired with the camo dropping after the first shot, makes PnT a limited utility exotic. Don't get me wrong, it's a great sniper... it's just that, as you mentioned, Icebreaker has more utility across the board.
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Whatever it doesn't matter since all you scrubs use shotguns and fusion rifles anyways.
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Got mine from the raid. First time.
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If you change your system date to next week you can see that xur will sell last word next week. I did this back and forth a few times and it was last word every time.
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i dont understand all the hype....i have had patience and time for awhile now and i think it sucks. The invis takes like 5 seconds of aiming to engage and it only lasts for about 8 seconds. So there goes any use in pvp. In pve it's really isn't any better as it takes you out of stealth the moment you fire. Best case scenario i used it to walk forward and revive somebody in a nightfall(before i started solo'ing all nightfalls). Do yourself a favor and pick up icebreaker....Now that is a real sniper rifle with an actual useful perk -§mort§-
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So, you are looking for notoriety. For a piece a geometry (cg) that you got in a video game( you didn't make it). Trying to disguise it by making it sound as though you are offering some sort of help. Really? it's a fricking game not real guns all you are doing is pushing buttons and flicking thumbsticks. Get over yourself.
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Your karma level has went up by 2+. You are now a hero of the forums
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Pretty awesome gun, honestly I don't care Xur is selling it, I'm more pissed he hasn't sold the Mida yet. Dammit all.
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Thanks for this! I was really debating wasting coins on it but couldn't find all of it's details written out anywhere. I think I'll just sit back and wait for Icebreaker, my little Queen's Wrath arc snipes will do the trick until then.
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I thought PnT would break the crucible, but you're right about the glare grime the scope.
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Thanks for this. Nice post on describing PnT. I have both ice breaker and PnT. Haven't used PnY yet. I'm really on the lookout now for a void damage sniper rifle. I haven't run the raid so I won't be getting preadyths revenge. Right now dream weapon is Ice Breaker with Void damage. 🙏🙏
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Edited by Lordsa Jar-Jar: 11/1/2014 10:20:09 AMWhere were you when he sold the gjallarhorn the 1st 2 times? And I don't know why you wouldn't buy the "PnT" the game is mostly about collecting rare loot whether it's good or not . P.S Heres a list of bad exotics Bad juju Thorn Last word Hard light MIDA Red death (Basically all pulse rifles are shit. Raid pulse is good I suppose) And something else I forgot.
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PnT where have u been all the years