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Edited by Spawn: 10/31/2014 12:50:56 PM
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PLEASE READ BUNGIE - MUST SORT PROBLEM WITH VANGUARD MARKS.

Dear BUNGIE, having played a lot of Vanguard and barely any Crucible except for a slight bit to finish the Thorn hand cannon bounty (which was ridiculous), I wanted to hear from you, or for you to sort out the issue of why Vanguard marks are so worthless. If you notice, you can buy things from all the factions with Crucible marks but not Vanguard marks. How is this fair? Should I really be penalised for the fact I do not enjoy spongey, double jumping (sometimes triple) PVP? The way I see it is that I earned my Vanguard marks by putting the time in and now that I have everything from the two Vanguard dealers that I need (such as the weapons, sparrows and previously armour), I would now like the option of buying merchandise from the factions. It is really not fair that Crucible marks can be spent at five different vendors and Vanguard marks at only two. It really does feel like the people who prefer to play Vanguard are being punished as you also have The Iron Banner which is exclusive to PVP to get gear from too. I would like you to sort this problem out it at least explain your reasoning behind this ridiculous scenario that PVE players find themselves in, as I know many who feel this way.

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  • Edited by Spawn: 10/31/2014 6:21:48 PM
    You can purchase Crucible marks for Destination materials like Spinmetal and Relic Iron from the Crucible vendors.

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    • If you would like to see changes made #feedback is your best option. Nobody can #help you with this.

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      • Good point vanguard marks need to be spendable at different venders. Or even motes of light as they are a waste of time. Maybe an option to convert say 10 motes of light into a strange coin. Or materials because chest farming is becoming repetitive and boring.

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        • Vanguard has armor and weapons. Armor at the hall of guardians and weapons at the quartermaster. Plus, the factions aren't just crucible. When you wear a faction band, hood, or mark both vanguard and crucible xp go towards it instead. So basically, don't whine and complain until you try to at least learn your shit.

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          • Stop bitching or play a diff game, nuff said

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            • I suggest you don't stop farming vsnguard marks and when the dlc comes the vanguard will probably have some new stuff :)

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              • Hey I think I found a decent solution to this problem. Just have a converter NPC to conver vangaurd to cruc. and vice versa. Have the NPC charge a minimal fee.

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                • Edited by θείος: 10/31/2014 10:52:26 AM
                  Pvp is another challenge. Get your character down and get use to the flow of it. Even when you lose in the crucible they reward you with marks, rep, and sometimes guns/armor legendary items.

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                  • You've not paid much attention to how to do things have you, you can farm spinmetal,relic iron, helium, spirt bloom and trade them all in for marks and rep to the crucible traders then you can buy what you want. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PLAY PVP

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                    • Agree.. something's not right here... If I use a reputation item from one of the factions it converts ALL rep to faction rep, so I gain ranks with playing a strike playlist, but I can't pay with the marks I get from said playlist? I need to play another mode to get marks? I would get it if the rep item would only change crucible rep to faction rep, then it would be obvious that the factions are pure PvP-elements (which would be ridiculous), but the way it is now is inconsistent....

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                      • Edited by SkinlessGorgon: 10/31/2014 12:15:23 PM
                        After level 3 on any faction, vanuard included, you get a legendary package, more ofthen than not, its a faction weapon. You get this for each level or rep there after, plus there are always the faction shaders after a certain level. still worth leveling even if you don't buy anything

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                        • I have to agree, it seems a little off that vanguard only has two vendors, whereas, crucible has five... I'm not a crucible fan either. I see it's appeal, and respect the PvP players and all, but all of us PVE players continuously get the shaft, it feels.. Plus, why the he'll do the vanguard vendors have the new item counter, if they never have anything new!?! Wtf is up with that?!

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                          • It takes a while, but you can rank up the other factions by equipping their class item, and then trading in planetary materials (spin metal, helium, relic iron, spirit bloom) for crucible marks. You still won't be able to buy from Shaxx or the crucible quartermaster if you don't play there (not enough crucible rep level), but future war cult, dead orbit, and new monarchy can be leveled up without stepping one foot inside PvP. Granted, your return rate on materials vs. crucible marks is basically 10 to 1, as you have to turn in 50 materials at a time to get 5 marks, 25 rep, 250 glimmer and a small amount of XP. I will say at the beginning I was like you, and didn't want anything to do with crucible. I tried a few matches the first week and got stomped, and even avoided a few exotic bounties because of the crucible requirement. I gave it another try when I decided to do the bad juju bounty (no death penalty unlike the thorn one), and only played when there were easy crucible bounties (complete 5 of match type X, kill 25 of this class guardians, earn 50 assists). It's kind of grown on me. I still have games where I get stomped on, but I tend to go at least even k/d, and I've even won a couple of rumble games now. It's definitely a lot more enjoyable when you have a friend or two in your fireteam. Most of my friends don't like crucible either, so I end up doing the bounties on my own.

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