No really! Explain it to me. What I know is this: The Traveler arrived on mars in the not so distant future. Giving us several hundred years of technological advancement. We could terraform planets. Think about it. As of right now they say doing something like that would take thousands of years. We did it in only a few in this game. So thats a pretty big thing. So one would assume our weapons and whatnot developed with that kind of wonder tech. And the fact that the city apparently cannot produce some kind of ammunition for its turrets tells me we did advance our weapons and that we have lost some of the know how to make them if not use them. How we lost: From what I know is that this thing that no one knows anything about called the Darkness arrived and in what sounds like one fell swoop took out all that we had built. How? Is it some strange enigmatic being? Or did it use the Fallen, Vex, Cabal, and Hive to do its dirty work. If its the first point...Then wtf? How does no one know what it is or even remember or have any knowledge of it? Something like that would probably of made the history books. Now if its the second point....Well this makes less sense. If the Darkness used the other races to bring Humanity to its knees....How? Seriously look at our enemies. The Fallen. They have houses that bicker among themselves. But first...Their weapons. They have slow charging pulse rifles that you can dodge by moving at a walk. A rifle that while it shoots tracking rounds, you can dodge these by strafing right or left, and a 6 legged mecha tank that is the next best thing to worthless. Look at the tank. Blowing off the armor of the legs causes it to shut down and show you its weakspot. Its main turret telegraphs when and where it is going to shoot, and the rest of its weapons are inaccurate as anything else. Plus it moves slow. Current tanks move faster, turn faster, and cannot be damaged by small arms fire. Unlike this tank of the Fallen. Im pretty sure an M1A1 could beat anything the fallen have by itself. The Cabal Roman style shields, Rocket launching shoulder pads, and a hover tank. These guys are a little better in my opinion than the Fallen are. They poise a little bit more of a threat. But lets look at them now. Big assed shields. These guys a slow and when they cover behind their shields they cannot aim worth anything. Plus they are stupidly vulnerable to any kind of flanking. So facing 3 or more people is a hopeless situation for a group of these guys. The captains and the centurions are the only part of this race that I can see being worth anything. They have shields can use rockets to float along and have either a chain gun a rocket launcher or...Rocket pads. But they like everything else couldn't shoot the broadside of a barn. Their big assed hover tank. Is...Too big to be worth anything. It could not fight its way through most cities let alone any kind of valley. Only useful for big open plains. Suffers same problem of being damaged by small arms and telegraphing where its going to shoot. The Vex. Teleporting robots. Almost all of the Vex suffer from the same thing. A glowing weakness on its body. The only one that does not are their big rocket totting shield wearing brothers. Who get mad and go into a rage instead of doing the right thing which would be lobbying rockets from afar. They almost all can teleport and some can become immune to damage, but what could is being immune to damage for 3 seconds in an open field. Nadda. Their big tank like things the Hydra have arms that fire a non stop volley of what I am assuming is plasma. They also have a rotating body shield that cannot be taken down and makes that portion of their body immune to all damage. Buuuuuut...They like everything else suck at aiming their twim turrets. And the body shield is next to worthless as it only cover part of them. Get enough of a height difference and you can shoot down past it with no fear of it stopping you. Horrible weakness. The Hive These guys..Just make no sense. They are clearly the most evil of all our enemies. But how did they ever gain space flight? Look at their society. To me...They all seem brainless except for the wizards. I just do not understand these beings. They must of been supplied by some 3rd party. The Darkness? Perhaps. Or maybe they are the Darkness embodied. But looking back..I feel like present day (As in 2014) Humans could put up a fight against the majority of these races. Their heavy vehicles are the next best thing to giant targets and their general aim and fighting style makes them seem as though they have no idea of what they are doing. So this takes me back to the start. How did we lose? The Humans who had several hundred years of tech advancement should have crushed any one or two or hell three of these races. The weapons we should have had should of torn a hole through anything they could have tossed against our walls. Or did these weapons not come about till after the fall? But if so...Why can we no longer make the ammo for some of our turrets. How did we become more advanced after losing the war when it comes to building new weapons. From the knowledge the npcs seem to have of the enemy, we had enough left to study them. So if so why can we not just build some type of weapon platform and go around and bring them to their knees? Or hell build a space ship and leave earth behind. Its clear none of them go hunting into the reef and kill any they find there. So just learn to fly a damn ship and get out of dodge. Someone enlighten me.