*fistbump* Yeah, it's a shame, right? Mine are shortening too. In fact, after I close this tab, I think I'm done with checking the site for hope every day. I'm trying for a 'No Outrage October' at the moment, so taking a philosophical look at it... I hit Destiny pretty hard the first couple weeks. Got a lot of fun playtime out of it. Then a lot of frustrating grind. Then I realized that I didn't actually have to grind and could just do the raid with my mates and that's really all that's of interest anymore... And sure, I was visiting the forum and website multiple times a day, desperately looking for some sign that the fixes were coming, that the problems were going to be solved, that maybe the story might get un--blam!-ed into something compelling... well. Now it's time to hang that up too, and just give it til the DLC drops or something. Maybe they'll run another event or two in-between, giving us re-skinned missions for some new faction or old faction or whatever recycled mission helps the willing think there's something new to do. Who knows. Who cares? There'll be Shadow of Mordor, Alien: Isolation, Sleeping Dogs and GTA 5 remasters, Borderlands, Evil Within, Lords of the Fallen, Dark Souls DLC, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Warlords of Draenor, the new Revan expansion for SWTOR, Assassin's Creed: Unity, Far Cry 4, Witcher 3, The Division, Dying Light, Evolve, Bloodborne, Mass Effect 4, Mirror's Edge 2, Final Fantasy 15... Man, it is about to RAIN gaming greatness every month this next year, and you'll forget Destiny was ever a thing. In some ways, that's sad... it had the potential to be a place you'd wanna damn near live, something living and evolving and immersive... But it didn't meet that potential. It's kind of like any relationship that fails. Best thing to do is move on. Props to the Guardians who stick around and try to make this shambles of a relationship work, but you'll probably be happier if you go on a break and give the relationship some space. Some distance away to see if you're not just caught up in what you were hoping for, or if you actually want to go back to what's actually here, now that all the flaws are known.

This game never left beta xD

Its an overhyped CoD with aliens. [spoiler]There was some free roam play... Right?[/spoiler]

"shift between halo's epicness and Destiny's mediocrity" Soooo much this. Certainly there had to be people at Bungie who finished the game and were like the rest of us: "Uh, that's it? Where is the story?"

I am not going to participate in a cycle of grind more to get more to grind more. This game earned all of its reviews. It feels like Bungie is saving something for later when they should have been laying foundation. They sold us what amounts to, in optimistic terms, breaking the ground and their promise that there will be foundation. I'll keep playing, but more out of a lack of compelling alternative than any ventured faith in Bungie or Destiny. If I hadn't played Warframe to death already, I'd have traded this in on day 3 and bailed.

get a lyfe u troll

At least you put your "signature" on your crappy book. You know most authors aren't that nice, I like this guy.

COD: AW for you good sir Longface.

"... squeezing as many pennies ..." At first glace, I read that very differently.

I don't understand why you or anyone complains about the perceived lack of purpose in raiding or doing the extra content. In Halo and most shooters, there's way less. In fact, there's usually no reward at all for beating Halo on legendary. You get nothing. I think it's awesome that we get loot which we can then carry into PVP.

its a disappointing game and my most disappointing game since Alan Wake (yeah imagine that...) BUT they did not fail in the most important part, which is gunplay. Because of the reason i have a little hope but then i remember that their published is the motherf*cking Activision and hope vanishes.................

Also they DID hint at opening up Mercury and maybe another planet soon.

To be honest, the game was made for the community. They will fix things, update things, and change things. The game is still relatively new and they do a pretty good job of informing the community of the updates. They can't do this stuff overnight. Even in the interviews, they stated that the game was meant to form a COMMUNITY of gamers that meet and fight TOGETHER. I love the community and if I played alone I would probably hate the game. However, I am proactive in getting a fire team together and enjoying the raids, strikes, crucible, and just messing around on patrol together.

Longface, you said pretty much everything I have been feeling. I have been the most avid Bungie fan for years. I LOVED Halo. I'm not here to argue the merits of Halo but I think it was fantastic. The universe was compelling and the game play somewhat revolutionary (you have to remember to view games in the context of the time and system they were originally released for). More than just the games themselves, the company culture impressed me (as revealed through vidocs and the like). An aspiring computer programmer at the time (and a web developer now) Bungie was the company I most wanted to work for. It sounds silly to say it in these terms, but I had a sort of faith in Bungie. And now that faith is somewhat shaken. Clearly the game is not what was advertised/anticipated by the community. The game engine is impressive enough, but the experience is still found wanting. I think the game would have been adequate from a new developer; but the fact of the matter is I think we all expected (and felt like we were promised) MORE from Bungie. I have feeling that a lot of the opposition to critiques of the game (read: "fanboys who flame anything negative said about the game") simply aren't thinking critically. I HAVE beaten the Vault, and it was a lot of fun. But more and more I think to myself, "what am I supposed to be doing with this game." I still enjoy it, but I'm running out of gas. More than that, I don't feel like I got the depth of rich game play I was expecting in the first place. And I come onto these forums and read the news waiting for Bungie to say SOMETHING that is going to work towards fixing the damage they've done to the trust of their fan base. Because the game is clearly lacking, and it is CLEARLY not the game they intended to make. You don't hire that level of voice talent to fill the roles they have now. I didn't even realize that Nathan Fillion was the voice of Cayde until a few days ago (when I ran the second mars strike for the Nth time...) and I am a -BLAM-ing HUNTER! And I love him as an actor! He just doesn't say enough. But Bungie hasn't done anything to restore my faith. Most of what they release into the internets amounts to a wall of silence with the asterisk "we're listening." For me, they need to own up to the fact they goofed up and say how they are going to fix it instead of IMPLYING that assertions made by the infamous Reddit AMA are false. And I say 'implying' because if you read carefully DeeJ's response to the original thread and everything since, he's careful not to actually label the AMA as a fraud. (He says "don't get trolled internets" not "you ARE being trolled". The semantical distinction is small but important.) I too would suggest making the first DLC free, but honestly I am not sure they have until December to start to make amends. I will be back probably (note, not 'still here'), but I think a lot of the community will be lost at that point. They need to make progress NOW, and these Queen events and the Iron Banner just AREN'T GOING TO CUT IT. Frankly they are a massive letdown. Just more of what we already had, re-branded under a different name. I still want to believe in Bungie! But they need to do something dramatic. And they need to do it NOW. They're current PR approach of "we're listening. Stuff will happen someday" isn't doing it for me. The lack [complete absence ?] of MEANINGFUL communication with their fan base feels like a betrayal. But I thank you Longface, for speaking up. The fact of the matter is, your post will gather some attention, and maybe carry some weight. And please, fellow guardians, before you faithfully uphold the fanboy/company mantra: pull your heads out of the sand, think critically and ask yourselves, is this game REALLY everything you hoped it would be?

Ditto. Feel the same way.

I hear ya, it seems like a lot was taken from us, so much controversy in the game and not the kind that they promised with they game that would change shooters/RPGs everywhere... I wish they would acknowledge how we feel and not pussyfoot around the subject with these grindfests for shiny (bad) gear. I've been playing for awhile now and it's really lost its luster I'm pretty sure I'll quit after the raid. Id sooner not play PS3 then buy the DLC for this, sorrynotsorry

I shed a tear for you. It was tiny but it counts. The fact that my friends and I are competing to be the best keeps me going. Sorry there isnt infinite content for you. That really sucks. Go spend $60 for some more content on a diff game.

I agree, long face. After I complete my bounties for the day and the raid for the week I'm often left sitting in the tower with my pals asking "Ummmmm what now?" And I tried to make an alt character but I can't stomach the dry campaign a second time.