So I have disposable income that I will not spend on another Bungie/Activision title/DLC. Got that Bungie? Activision? maybe if more understood the issue here and said: gee. I could use a tank of gas rather than some micromanaged hack title that disconnects and under-delivers. "..what really got me upset, was that I have to wait a FREAKING WEEK to get past 100VG that I earned!!! I earned that! That was my TIME! My Money! how dare you!!"

This game isn't bad nor is it good. We were promised better. A bait and switch from what was originally stated and content we thought we'd get to see after release remained closed. This is a legal problem that may form into a consumer lawsuit. I'm not against the way the game is currently, but they should release the currently unaccessible content missions and stuff each week till the release of the Expansions. Those Expansions should be unreleased content, such as new worlds to travel to like different invaded cities on Earth or other planets. I again state I love this game with a lot of but....

They made it smell good and then farted in our face!

My thoughts are: I can't wait to trade Destiny in.

This game is only "bad" because of the hype. If they'd have marketed it as a FPS with elements from other games rather than a revolutionary open-world FPS game with epic story etc it wouldn't seem so bad. The fact is the game doesn't live up to the hype, it's not a bad game, it wears thin relatively quickly, but then again after the first couple times through Halo on legendary the multiplayer was all that mattered anyway. FPS always have limited replay value. TBH I liked the game, it's was fun, it'll still be fun for a bit with crucible and at least another couple times through the raid for me. That said, if the DLC only includes a few strikes an extra raid and a few story missions it's not going to be worth purchasing for me. They'd basically have to have half the content of the released game for it to be worth the amount they want. They're not going to care that I'm not purchasing it, so many people preordered the DLC that they won't be lacking for players, but I doubt I'll continue playing till December rolls around without significant additions in the meantime, which don't look forthcoming. (I'm not listing them here, there are plenty of other posts in the forum for that.)

Man I can't wait for call of duty to come out reading all these replys your cod short bus is almost here an you can roll out.

[quote]I work as a game tester. I've worked on a few disc titles and many, many games on the Xbox Live Arcade and almost all of the digital launch titles for Xbox One. I also know someone who I used to work with, who does the same work at Bungie. I've worked through every milestone in a games development, I've seen how the product starts and how it ends, and often times, it ends up being completely different, with a lot of stuff cut, for good reasons. Now, I haven't worked on a game with a long as a life cycle as Destiny, but I'd like to share some thoughts following Destiny's release. Content gets cut, things get re-written. Things that the Dev's may have "promised" or said a year or two ago could easily change, and for good reasons. Maybe that content they said they could do didn't fit within the parameters of release, maybe it just didn't seem as fun as they had originally planned. People need to understand that there are dozens of variables that go into game development. Have you seen this game? It is completely and utterly contained with some of the highest attention to detail I've ever seen in a game. People spent hours, countless hours, working hard spending time away from their families and friends to build a universe for YOU, for YOU to enjoy. When you come out and say that this game sucks or rate this game at a 0, you are being completely and utterly evil, and mean, completely disrespectful and ignorant to what it takes to make something like this. This is a vision created by talented minds for you to enjoy, and for them to enjoy themselves. As gamers we need to take a little more time to consider what we say and do and appreciate that these developers spent millions of dollars and time to create a game for us that is much bigger than we all realize, for 60 dollars. 60 bucks. There is plenty of fun to be had here for 60 dollars. I've paid 60 dollars for incredibly worse games, INCREDIBLY worse. Now, that's not to say that the game isn't without its faults, there is no PERFECT game. Take pleasure in the notion that Bungie will support this game for many years to come, and your initial investment is one that will carry that investment into greater, more in depth experiences within Destiny. Give them some feedback about what isn't right about the game, I for one would like better voice communication and better itemization, and places to explore. If you don't like it, or feel betrayed that Bungie has somehow "lied" to you about the game or features, then move on or provide some real constructive feedback, or maybe pick up the game at a later date to see if any of the feedback has changed the game in a positive way. This attitude and conspiracies over a video game is just silly, immature, and your time is better spent on other things. I spent two weeks researching this game, listening to opinions, seeing the rage and insta-zero's on metacritic. While the game clearly has a few identity issues, there is no game on this planet that deserves a zero (With a few exceptions, of course). I've accepted Destiny's weaknesses and see the potential of it's glory. Give Bungie the benefit of the doubt, instead of the hate, and try to be more accepting and understanding of game developers. They are not slaves to your needs, rather, wizards for your imagination. EDIT: Let me make this clear, you are entitled to your opinion, I am simply communicating that better effort be spent in clear criticism rather than incessant whining and berating. EDIT: This guy gets me - [quote]Quote from Poster - Recreant888: While perhaps they have not phrased it sufficiently, we believe that the author is mainly objecting to the rampant hyperbole and vilification that permeates so much of the objection to the game. Destiny may not meet one's expectations and we firmly believe that everyone should be free to assess the games merits personally, but the constant bombardment of tirades marking Destiny as 'the worst game ever' or asserting that no one should like this game are both misleading and presumptuous. All these rabid screeds do is act as noise, drowning out the valid reasoned complaints. [/quote][/quote] Translation : I don't care that Bungie and Activision slapped me to the ground, took my lunch money, and laughed while they walked away trouble free.

*Drums roll* ..annnnnnd Fanboy of the week award goes to.......YOU. LMAO. How much they paying you tho?

Tool.

This is what I think...

You obviously have no idea what the game looked like a year a go, compared to the POS it is now. You really, REALLY have no idea what we could of actually had instead.

"People spent hours, countless hours, working hard spending time away from their families and friends to build a universe for YOU, for YOU to enjoy." No, what they created was something for me to purchase. They created a product to sell to me. Part of their marketing was to show this game off at trade shows and conventions. What they do in the games industry is, honestly, no different than how the rest of the market operates. Movies, TV shows, even FILING CABINETS go through an almost identical process. R&D, production, marketing, release, sell-through. It's the same song and dance. I understand that you are sick of the noise and sick of the QQ that permeates these forums. Speaking as someone who is generally disappointed with the quality of this game (having no expectations going into it), I'm sick of it too, because it means that those who have legitimate complaints can not be heard. You quoted somebody who posted that in a very concise and respectful manner, but this whole, "Look what they did! Give them SOME credit!" argument needs to go away. Just like it's annoying to see constent crying about petty stuff, it's equally as annoying to try to discuss ways to make this game better to be responded to in a manner of, "QQ more skrub, get better," or "Quit your crying, they worked really hard and you're just a baby." What irks me the most is people who simply respond, "Just give it time." Why? Why should I have to wait to have a product delivered? This isn't a pre-order, I bought this game on the release date (and no, I didn't buy it at midnight, I bought it that afternoon) and there's an overall sense that this game is half-finished. While it's certainly interesting to get some little tidbits from the community about development, and that brings a lot of things that feel "missing" into focus, I can understand being upset at being told, "Here's what the game looks like!" and then getting a product that doesn't match what you were told. This speaks more to Bungie being very vocal when it suited them, and mum when it didn't. Rather than take some negative press and communicating with your devoted followers, Bungie AND Activision both took the road of, "They'll figure it out on launch day." I sympathize with the people who followed this game through and through because they were excited for it. They really wanted this world that these creators were going to give them, and instead of getting something that they were TOLD they were going to get, they got something that was very different. Hindsight is always 20/20, but maybe a few more "bad launches" will teach these companies that they need to bring a product forward that they are GOING to deliver, stay in communication with your community (we aren't stupid, and we understand that stuff gets cut), or shut up and simply release the game when it's time. You can't have your hype, change the game, and then eat up sales and expect people to just go, "Well I'm sure they tried REALLY, REALLY hard!". All this coming from a guy who works in video production. We underpromise and overdeliver because it cuts down the hype and allows our creativity to blow the customer away. This industry needs to go back to that.

Gotta be honest...I don't care. I don't care that people spent countless hours creating this repetitive boring shooter advertised as something revolutionary. I don't care...I really, really don't. The product sucks. Plain and simple. Bungie swindled millions of gamers out there for a game that just isn't fun. I bought the game and have played it once. I also played the beta. I have absolutely NO DESIRE to repeat the same, boring crap that I did already in the beta. Its just so so boring.

I see more people blindly defending the game's faults than I see people going above and beyond to ridicule the game into oblivion. Although both are far too prevalent. I wish the community could just find a middle ground. Like, the game is a 6-7/10. Not a personal 6-7/10 guys, I'm saying from a design standpoint it's a 6-7. Which is decent. But calling it a 1-2 and saying it's the worst game ever doesn't help at all. Neither does saying it's incredible and claiming things like the grimoires or PvE strike repetition are good design ideas. The few of us who actually try and be constructive with our criticism while also enjoying Destiny's great attributes get trolled into oblivion or succumb to the Destiny rage machine because, well, everyone else is being rude to us. Why is there so much hate?

[quote]Give Bungie the benefit of the doubt, instead of the hate, and try to be more accepting and understanding of game developers. They are not slaves to your needs, rather, wizards for your imagination.[/quote] Agree they are wizards for our imagination to thrive, and they did that very well in many regards. 10 year+ Bungie fan here. I like the game, as a whole, the shooting mechanics are great, the music is glorious, it is wonderfully beautiful, and a lot of fun to play. My only gripe was the story delivery. Being a sucker for immersion and good storytelling, I was looking for a more engaging start for the new franchise. The artists of Bungie spent countless hours to give us all those little details that make Bungie games what they are. The sunsets and sunrises from the tree at the Tower are more beautiful than in real life, little fishes in the Traveler's courtyard ponds, my weapon has tiny blue sparks as I run through the Tower, rainbows in waterfalls, locations that make you want to just sit down and enjoy the scenery, glorious music, and on and on... For some of us, story and characters are important too. No one in their right mind can defend the way this one was delivered. Some of the lines were downright atrocious and out of place. After finishing the story mode, I have no idea what's going on, who these people are, nor do I care. I wanted to get a hands on tutorial with Lord Shaxx and find out how he lost his horn, wanted to go on a mission with good looking Dead Orbit guy downstairs, he could have told me about the factions, why I should join his? Etc. I expected to be left on the edge of my seat before the next DLC or installment and that has not been the case. I'll play for the fun and all the things that turned out right in the game, but I'll miss the emotional connections Bungie gives us in their games. Those awe moments that just blow your mind are just not there. Don't tell me to wait, first impressions are what sets the tone when you first play a game. And don't mention those collectible cards, they are as exciting to read as a dictionary and not even in game. As I posted before, O'Donnell's music was my narrative. His musical tale said much more than any sentence uttered in the game. The few magical moments when I felt legendary happened with the music.

I payed $100 for Destiny Limited Edition. I love this game, even though I only get to play a few hours a day (maybe) I payed $60 for COD Ghosts. Worst game I've played in a long time. Destiny > everything else

"I have deleted the original post contents." That is because you were full of $hit.