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Edited by I Am CoolGuy: 10/2/2014 9:27:53 PM
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Ok..I think Xur needs to be adjusted. GREAT backed idea. NOW with Patch 1.0.2?

I have made a poll under feedback: found here. same post but has a poll if you are interested: I am sorry for 2 posts...I am not sure how to add a poll to an existing thread. http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70867499 EDIT: This is my own opinion. Later in the post you can back it or not. OR something else you would like/if anything/ It does not have to be necessarily what I think should happen ( though many like the idea) Getting the community talking; constructively, is important. . I feel something needs to be changed. So the patch is out! For people backing the fact that they have horrible luck with drops. The Cyptarc should get you what is advertised ( if not better) within the engram tier. Now, what are your thoughts on my plan with this patch implemented on top of it? I originally made a post asking if Xur should be changed. It had mixed reviews. As replies came in, I added to the idea and have come up with this: ( My original post is after the pitch) In no way is this a malicious post or anything. It is a conversation piece. I am actually a moderator for EA Sports. Madden mostly. I love all types of games and the forum communities just as much. Tons of opinions and tons of conversation. This is one of those. The best middle ground solution is this: Class Armor and the one engram is fine. Instead of one weapon every week. Xur needs to sell ONE exotic weapon bounty per week. His own bounty. Some sort of "Agent on the nine bounty" Let me explain: This does so much! A) Guardians will not be running around with the same guns. ( Suros, Gjallarhorn) Before you know it. Everyone is shooting lasers and Cluster homing missiles at every control objective. B) RNG will actually be good for this. People get different guns. C) it will give you something to grind for the week. You have 1 week to get it done. It also adds new gameplay for the week along with the nightfall,daily etc. Bungie can make it one of two ways: 1) get the bounty done and turn it into the bounty guy at any point during the week. This is more time safe. Go as you go type thing. 2) My favorite option. You have to turn the bounty back into Xur. This gives the hardcore gamer the challenge of completing the bounty in 1 or 2 days. The casual gamer can have the week. This is PERFECT. People get different guns. Bungie knows when we are sleeping and knows when we are awake. They know how many coins the average gamer earns each day. How many hours we take to complete bounties/strikes/raids. I am sure they can balance this thing out to be great. Bungie can find a happy medium for the weapon bounty. Be it X amount of coins or maybe Coins and Motes. Something. It should be a tad higher than what we are used to now. But not outrageous. Who knows, maybe if you can not complete the bounty. Like lets say you do not like the PVP parts or it is too hard for you ... maybe Bungie can implement a return to Xur? Who knows? Maybe the following week you can turn in the incomplete bounty. And get a small ( i mean small ) reimbursement for what you have done on the bounty? ( As in, get SOME strange coins back)??? In short. Class gear is ok. Maybe do a small price hike. This way people can choose if they want to buy an armor piece or save another week to go for a "Nine bounty" the following week. Mainly. Instead of 1 weapon. (This week the suros) have 1 bounty. For a random weapon. I think we should push the idea!! I do want to make this post. constructive. I have added a poll. After reading my little post. Please state your mind of Why Xur needs to be/ does not need to be adjusted. If you do think he does in some way. Then post how you should think he should be. Support your claims. No one is wrong. I have cleaned up my OP. Again, please post your opinions Guardians! I love him...but he needs to be adjusted IMO. Day 2 of the game, I found someone with the Suros Regime. Such a fantastic gun. I knew from that day, that is what I will be striving for. That was all I wanted. That is what I grinded for. Bungie said that when players got exotics, others would beg the question:" where did you get that?" "what adventure did you do to obtain that?" Long and short answer as of now : I was at the tower on the weekend. Exotics are supposed to be rare, highly coveted, and the player can have some bragging rights. Sure they are random, but there is also a sense of accomplishment for some of them ( EXAMPLE: Exotic weapon bounty) With that, Xur needs to be adjusted IMO. Jack the prices a bit. Here is why: ANOTHER HUGE ISSUE FOR ME: People have the their vault. Some have 3 active characters. They can do the nightfall/daily 3 times basically And farm coins. That is cool and all. But listen, when you can get a ton of coins each week though the characters. Then store them in your vault, only to store them so your main character has almost enough to buy every single things XUR can offer. I have an issue with that. It kind takes the integrity away from the vendor. Member Washboat said it best: "Simple fix: Make it impossible to share coins between characters. I have 19 coins right now accumulated from three characters over the past few days. Tuesday I'm going to do the weekly heroic on two characters and then I'll have enough to buy Xur's gun and class item for the hunter. If I couldn't share coins then I'd have to actually work to get those extra coins. They need to also raise the price a little. It should be a tough choice every weekend to decide which "exotic" I take that week. As of right now the hardest part is finding him in the tower" Basically Gear is ok. But, Maybe ban the sharing of coins and motes? As in, the coins are for the CURRENT character and can not be shared? That would be huge. Prices can stay the same on Xurs gear. As long as we are unable to share coins in the vault between characters. How many coins for the the weekly? You are only supposed to do once. But A lot do it 3 times, then move them to one location. What was supposed to be kind of like a Ferrari dealership.....tuned into a Wal-Mart. If you catch that relation. I just moved across the country and my friends told me. "He has your gun bro" (Suros Regime) I flipped lol. I needed 2 coins and no way of logging on. My friend got on for me and took care of it. I can not use it until Wednesday. With this time I have. I have reflected. Sure it is awesome that I have the gun I have wanted. Then I started thinking. ..what about the original Suros users? The ones that got it out on an adventure? The ones that got it " legit". Legit meaning: He got it truly random. Beating a boss, random drop, crucible drop. Luck of the draw. He got lucky. And got an AWESOME gun. You have to think. The pure luck of getting the gun. You have a hard chance of getting an exotic in the first place. Be it from the cryptarc or from a strike. THEN lets say there are 6 exotics for everything your guardian can have. Six different primary, special, heavy. Then six different helmets, chests, etc. So at least 40 exotics. THEN RNG the suros. Odds are crazy. I feel bad for the guys that already had it. A gun that is truly special. One they lucked out on.....Now everyone has it. Do not think I am against Xur. Xur is a sure fire way for some to at least get their hands on exotics. Which is totally fine. However. When it comes to guns....I would like their to be a RNG for them too. Along with hard work. Work that will stretch out the week. I will tell you this. Bungie DOES read these forums. The community wanted that gun. Whenever a poll came up or a topic was created in" what do you want Xur to bring this weekend". Over 60% said the Suros. They delivered. With that said. I do not know what it is...but somehow adjust him. Members are breaking down strikes and coin rewards etc. ms. When you start breaking that down, along with other created characters. It needs to be adjusted IMO. In conclusion, do we want this for our game? I think Xur needs a huge overhaul. I just think that he is a HUGE part of the game at this time. Grinding for coins is putting in work. You can't make everyone happy. Like I said... just a little convo piece. Why not sell exotic bounties? I would be totally down for that. You work. Then you work some more. A little added sense of accomplishment. Thoughts Guardians? Here is an example of bragging rights. Thanks to member Cyriacus. He found the video i was speaking of and his comment is true. "The gun he got from VOG Hard was Vex Mythoclast. No it should not be nerfed for PVP he earned it." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQeIlojbuz0#t=33 my friend showed me a video of a gun a guy got from beating VOG on hard. I mean the gun rips. I do not know the gun name,but it is special. It is only obtained from a RNG drop on hard. Thank you for your time. Your insight is needed.
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  • If u have to grind to finish the bounty then you shouldn't have to pay a bunch of strange coins for it. You already grind for the strange coins then you earn an exotic weapon or armor if it's something you like

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  • I didnt read the entire post, but your ideas, while being pretty good, are just band-aids to a much larger wound that needs to be addressed, being that this game has a huge lack of content and story. Bottom line is that we shouldn't be made to grind away on the same small handful of activities to do, all to get a shot at earning items from such a small selection of gear....from a vendor that ONLY comes once every wknd. Its pretty absurd. Add more things to do, add more gear to acquire which therefore allows for Xur to have a wider selection of offerings, and the current setup becomes largely unproblematic. I mean c'mon we can already see Xur is repeating offerings, and I was especially pissed this wknd after grinding and saving strange coins just for him to offer 3 helmets and a pulse rifle (which is annoying to someone like me who just recently acquired a legendary/exotic helmet days prior) Making Xur give bounties would crowd the bounty scene too much, and since this game has such little to offer in terms of PVE content, i'm sure bounty tasks would overlap and unbalance the whole system (i.e. doing tasks would most definitely satisfy multiple bounty requirements at the same time, lessening the overall difficulty to complete them). The real answer begins with offering more content. Its becoming apparently evident that Bungie designed the vendor/inventory system with the intent to make players create multiple toons. Besides the obvious issues with imposing such a gaming style unto players, that poses a HUUUUGE problem when the offerings of PVE activities is so paltry.

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  • I think he needs to be nerfed a little bit, I think that he should only sell Legendary weapons and armor. IMO exotics should only be obtained through their bounties, that way everyone has to do the same amount of work for them. Just my 2 cents.

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    • I like this idea. it's funny because I was having the exact same thought and even posted it as a comment in some other post. Although I would change some aspects. 1. Xur doesn't sell any weapons or armor 2. Xur sells exotic armor and weapon bounty ENGRAMS - meaning you don't know what you're going to get but with the most current patch you know it's going to be an exotic for sure. For armor engrams he has 3 options, 1 for each class so a warlock doesn't get a Titan helmet. 3. Xur should sell legendary armor and weapon engrams as well for a lovely price of 25k glimmer and a few strange coins. again 3 options for armor for each class. I like this option as it uses up that lovely glimmer ... Gives you an incentive to get/use those glimmer drop buffs. I love this way of dealing with this concern. By doing so not only does it make sure that majority of people do not all have the same weapon from the most recent xur spawn... But it also gives the players a sense of accomplishment from getting the exotic item. I know when I did the thorn bounty I was so happy when I was finished. Not because of the gun itself but because I finished the string of challenges to get it. I knew that other players would know what I had to go through to get it done. That's my story. I did the bounty by myself as a lvl 26. Xyor was hard as hell but it was the most fun I've had. .... Better than the final boss battle might I add haha. I like the idea of having them called the "Nine Bounty" and having them turned into Xur. To that I'd just say make a Nine Weapon Bounty Engrams, Nine Hunter Armor Bounty Engram, etc. so you buy it, bring it to cryptarch, do tasks and bring it to Xur when done. Hell id even do one more thing and have Xur just give you the "blueprints" to the gun and make that damn gunsmith useful. lol

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      • I agree with most of it except the idea that they should stop allowing characters to share strange coins through the vault. You speak like its some type of exploit or something, when it fact it's the hardcore players like myself dedicating the TIME into accomplishing those tasks multiple times. We aren't getting these coins for free you know.

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        • Xur is the only sane source of loot in this entire game, and there isn't enough money to buy the buckets of tears that fill up every weekend. I love that ugly noodle-faced creep.

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          • Another Xur weekend. What do you think?

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          • thing is the game is fine way it is if u want to grind your ass off to get things you can if you only want to grind a little you can ie weekend vendor either way you do it is fine there's no reason to make the game any harder for people who don't like to grind. like what every ones talking about the better gear some ones got the better they will be in strikes an raids an hell even pvp. every one just needs to chill out about how some thing is a bit easier no matter witch way you get your gear you've still earned it plan an simple. easiest thing for bungie to do is leave the game way it is you can choose witch way you want to get your gear.

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            • Jeez its almost 1:50am i stated reading this at 11:pm

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            • Edited by AnyOLName: 10/2/2014 7:10:57 PM
              It's not about the rarity of the gear. It's about the journey it took to get the gear. Everyone is going to have the more common ones sooner or later, that doesn't make them less "Special". If you have the time, and enjoy exotic bouties, strikes, dailies and raids...then that's why it's special. If you don't have the same amout of time and you grind out a few coind over a few weeks doing the what you can..then that;s why it's special. Lets face it, the people that are capable of making 50-60 coins a weeks are not going to need the gear that Xur sells. But the people that take 3-4 weeks to make 50-60 coins does. that doesn't make the item any less valuable. It's not the destination that matters, it's the journey to get there.

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              • The only issue I have with this agent is that he loads the server with tons of people using the same stuff. These items lose their value to me when everyone is rocking the same weapons/gear. The fact that my character can be different in any way makes the experience that much more special. The current Xur deal takes away from this for me a little bit! I'm down for him only selling engrams as long as they're guaranteed for your class when they're exotic.

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              • Moved to feedback

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              • Should I put this in feedback?

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              • I would only support Xur selling Exotic Bounties (instead of weapons themselves) if Bungie changes the way Exotic Bounties work. The first step in the Exotic Bounty should be to visit either the Vanguard Quartermaster OR the Crucible Quartermaster. If the player visits the Vanguard Quartermaster, ALL steps to complete the Exotic Bounty would be PVE-based. No Crucible / PVP would be required. Conversely, if the player visits the Crucible Quartermaster ALL steps to complete the Exotic Bounty would require Crucible / PVP. No PVE activities (Missions , Strikes, etc.) would be required. These changes would allow players who prefer PVP to focus primarily on PVP and players (like myself) who prefer PVE to focus primarily on PVE, and still work to complete an Exotic Bounty.

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                • People are having strong arguments. Keep it up!

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                • other arguments aside xur is the only sink for coins and people who dont play all the time may not to be able to complete a bounty they spent their coins on in your alloted week i mean part of the exotic bounties is getting something from xur more often then not so your idea kinnda dies right there unless you could buy your doodad for the gun the first day because if you cant when hes there hes not there again til it expires...

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                • I mean really why cant people get some thing a bit easier with out some one whining about it.

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                  • Very good suggestions. I also agree that they should implement a bind on equip/pickup system so people can't farm coins on three different characters for their main. This can also allow limit abuse and allow for a trade system.

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                    • Quit whining and trying to change everything In the game. Xur is fantastic as he is. Some people, like myself, have awful, absolutely awful rng luck and can only acquire exotics through Xur. Only exotic I ever got was from him. Xur is meant to give those people a chance at getting something nice. So just stop. Thanks goodbye.

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                      • For an EA guy (no offense) this is an excellent idea.

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                        • I do think Xur could use some RNGesus, but nothing too extreme. Exotic bounties would be fine, but not if they're as difficult to complete as some of the normal exotic bounties. I completed the Thorn bounty which was pretty difficult, but not too bad. I currently have the Pocket Infinity and Bad Juju bounties in my inventory. The deconstruction of 10 rare or higher fusion rifles for Pocket Infinity sucks. I've only found 4 in 1.5 weeks now. The 26 strikes requirement for Bad Juju sucks because there aren't enough strikes to make this even remotely fun. Plus you need to buy a component from Xur who is of course only available on weekends. I think a less extreme solution than adding purchasable exotic bounties would be just to make Xur's inventory random for each player each week. That way you don't end up with every player running around with the most powerful AR all of a sudden. I'm sure I'm just lucky having received 3 exotic bounties within about a week and a half, so I'm assuming this isn't usual. But having them take up my bounty inventory space for a couple of weeks each really sucks. Exotic bounties should have their own inventory slot seperate from the normal bounties. I just hope I don't get another before I finish up at least one of the two I have.

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                          • This idea is so good it was probably already removed from the game

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                            • He shoulnt be changed he is working as intended.

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                            • Edited by ThawingFungus: 9/30/2014 9:47:08 PM
                              Don't really care what happens... As long as I can grab that Ice Breaker!! Sole reason for grinding right now. The rest of the post is overkill, but I do like the part about exotic Xur bounties. Would be much more fun that just handing over some coins for instant gratification.

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                            • No

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                            • While it may suck that it seems everyone is getting exotics, there are only a set amount of them in the game right now. Even if Xur vanished for good, how long do you think it would take for the majority of players to have the same gear? A month? Two perhaps? Supposedly this game will last ten years. Of course they will add more exotics to earn, but time will do what Xur is already doing. If you are a bit taken aback that everyone is holding the same exotics I wouldn't bother playing after this month. Opinion: given enough time everyone will have the same gear regardless of if they bought it, farmed it, danced in crucible, ect. Perhaps you could focus on being the best with said exotics, or even making specific builds (hard to do I know) around those pieces of gear. -sips tea- But that's none of my business

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