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Edited by Progressiverain: 9/28/2014 9:36:28 PM
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Dear Bungie. We don't want your DLC.

EDIT: I wanted to clarify my stance on this a little more and without the use of any blams. I don't have a problem with paid DLC. I actually prefer to the alternatives like microtransactions and monthly subscriptions. Also, as a business owner I understand the need for Bungie to turn a profit. MY problem lies with the fact that this game shipped with SO many known problems that forum goers, reviewers and columnists all voiced their opinion on during the alpha/beta and every one of them seemed to fall on deaf ears. Meanwhile, we get a game that seems unfinished. All those little areas around the worlds that SEEM like they're supposed to go somewhere but end up as a dead end. Well they DO actually go somewhere but for some reason it's been locked away. Presumably for paid DLC. The content is already there but we're going to have to pay to play it. Normally this wouldn't be an issue but the content in Destiny is already painfully short so why did they cut out these much needed areas? My problem is that Bungie seems to be so dead set on churning out additional paid content they they've left a skeleton crew of devs to support the original game. They apparently have no problem with shutting down known exploits or farming areas quite promptly but they can't add a simple skip cutscene button or volume controls? A bunch of people shooting at a black hole isn't hurting my experience. Not being able to hear voice chat over the god forsakenly loud music, communicate with other players in the world easily or not being able to play the higher difficulty content because of the lack of matchmaking however, is. We all really wanted to fall in love with Destiny and were fooled into thinking that we actually might have a chance to mold and create Destiny alongside you with our feedback during the alpha and beta, but it seems that even though you say you thrive on our feedback, you've ignored nearly all of it and that is your biggest crime. ---- Me personally, I've already canceled my "expansion pass" because I can already guess what it will include. The same shitty story revisiting the same areas we've already been to countless times. Hell, some of this DLC we can see shipped with the original game via videos of people glitching into entirely new areas that are simply walled off and you've already stated in previous interviews that your DLC will "Revisit existing areas". -blam!- that. I refuse to spend my money on more or of the same content that can be completed in a couple hours. How about instead you pull your resources off making more shitty content and fixing your existing game. Heres what we would actually pay money for: [b]1. Voice chat. [/b] You'e already said you're "working" on this and want to add it "this year" but this will only be for matchmade activities. We still won't be able to communicate with people in the wild unless we add them to our fireteam which is my next point [b]2. Fix your busted ass fireteam system[/b] I have never seen shit so clunky and -blam!-ed up in my life. I have to return to orbit and come back down at a checkpoint to join a persons fireteam when Im standing RIGHT -blam!-ING NEXT TO THEM!? I have to return to orbit when I want to leave someones fireteam!? WTF We can't talk to people unless were in a fireteam but it takes 20 -blam!-ING MINUTES OF LOAD SCREENS JUST TO DO SO And why can't I see who the -blam!- is in my fireteam unless I go to the Roster screen? UGH [b]3. Fix the -blam!-ing dpad into something usable[/b] Jesus H Christ. 4 buttons for emotes is unbelievable to me. Why not create a way for players to communicate with each other with simple hand gestures and other callouts like we suggested in the alpha and beta. We have to -blam!-ing spaz out with waving and point just to show a fellow gamer in the area that theres a chest over somewhere. A simple "Hey, Follow me" callout would fix ALL of the non-fireteam communication between players. EDIT: This is what the dpad should have been. http://i.imgur.com/FSfWoZo.jpg http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2bh3ch/idea_for_16_emotes_using_two_taps_on_dpad/ [b]4. Fix the -blam!-ing crucible [/b] "Damage is normalized" - My -blam!-ing ass. You REALLY believe a level 5 has a chance against level 30's with full legendary and exotics? Are you kidding me? Why don't you make modes ACTUALLY normalized and then create a PERMANENT Iron Banner for higher level players who actually want to use the gear theyve grinded a bullshit amount of hours to get? [b]5. Quit having "events" that are just the same -blam!-ing shit over but with a different twists[/b] Queens wrath is -blam!-ing pointless after you nerfed legendary shards. Salvage mode in the crucible should just -blam!-ing stay and Combined Arms was just a mode with only the moon and mars. Wow...just wow. "Hey guys, lets make a mode that only has the maps with vehicles and then call it an event" "BRILLIANT!" Or just let us choose what -blam!-ing maps we want to play MAYBE? [b]6. Give us some sort of trading or economy[/b] Most people will agree that your game is nothing but a grind fest after level 20 with nothing to do but play the same god forsaken shit over and over and over again. Giving us something to do other than play repeated shit over and over like trading, crafting...i dont know...-blam!-ing anything? would make this game more tolerable. I'm at max glimmer every damn time I return to the -blam!-ing tower. I can only buy so many -blam!-ing ships and ammo refills. [b]7. Remove the -blam!-ing caps on everything[/b] Im at max glimmer on both my characters, max crucible and pvp marks. Any additional I get of all three just fall off into nothingness. WTF are we supposed to do with all this stupid useless -blam!-ing currency? I've got all your different forms of your currency coming out my asshole but I can't find enough -blam!-ing shards to upgrade my armor to save my -blam!-ing life. Perhaps if we could simply trade between players to some extent this wouldn't be a -blam!-ing issue. You say you want us to "earn" our gear. REALLY? Then why did you make a -blam!-ing loot system that is 100% -blam!-ING RANDOM. I grinded my -blam!-ing BALLS off to get strange coins to buy exotics with and the same day I buy the Suros Regime my asshole friend, who has NO strange coins and plays half as much as I do gets one in the -blam!-ing crucible for free. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [b]8. Daily, Weekly and Nightfall matchmaking.[/b] You want to close off matchmaking to your impossible to complete without 5 friends raid then fine but by the time we are level 26-30 and have completed the same -blam!-ing strikes and missions a hundred times over, we don't NEED teamwork to complete these heroics. We've all done them a BILLION times already. We know the fights, we know it's the same -blam!-ing shit we did last time. I don't NEED to be on voice chat with two other people who have also done it countless times. JESUS [b]9. Fix your -blam!-ing clan system.[/b] Holy dog shit. No in game clan support? 100 member cap. Is Bungie run by -blam!-ing monkeys? [b]10. Add distance markers to patrol missions.[/b] The only thing worse than doing the same boring ass patrol missions over and over again is getting the "Go here and scan some shit" ones where you end up driving from the starting point on the moon to the deepest chasm in the tunnels just to scan something and be left in the middle of -blam!-ing no where. In which case it's faster to return to orbit and start over. Give us a "4324m" distance marker and well know to drop that piece of shit mission right then and there. [b]11. LET US TURN DOWN THE -blam!-ING MUSIC[/b] Hundreds of millions went into the development of this game and you're telling me that at no time during the last 3-5 years did anyone at Bungie go like "Hmmm...do you think we should add volume controls?" HOLY -blam!-ING SHIT [b]12. Make me feel like theres a reason to try to win in the Crucible[/b] Because right now, there basically is none. The rewards are random, the rewards for winning are damn near invisible, medals do absolutely nothing for us. Right now the only difference between a win and a loss is getting 3 marks vs. 2 marks which I'm willing to bet the majority of people didn't even know. When I see people who are AFKing in my games, but moving just enough not to get booted and getting exotic rewards and free marks for my efforts, then you know your system -blam!-ing blows asshole. [b]13. Release the three blocked off areas on earth as free content before the first DLC[/b] This is your final chance bungie. From videos on youtube we KNOW this game was shipped with those areas intact. Some full with enemies waiting for us. If you now try to sell us these areas as DLC you are going to have a -blam!-ing shit storm on your hands and there will be a lot more people like me who give up and your 'Could Be So Awesome' game. You keep saying you thrive on feedback and you're listening but I'm not going to sit here and play the same shit 100x over while I wait to see if you actually do. There are too many games being released soon to sit around and hope you get your shit together. I'll come back in a couple of months to check on your progress. Shadows of Mordor here I come. [b]EDIT: New video of glitch shows these areas already built into the original game will be sold to us as expansions[/b] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-osssAKgEc All of you who still believe the locked up areas on Earth and everywhere else will be given away as free content patches after seeing that video are delusional. GG Bungie
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  • Well said...

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  • Edited by profilewon: 9/29/2014 3:28:19 PM
    #5 is spot on. They say there is always new stuff to do. But I say there is always new stuff to do... For the tenth time today. I mean how many times are you going to make me play the strikes and missions. This isn't new content, it's a boring twist on the same content. Thanks bungie

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  • holy shit, totaly agree!

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  • You are so right about what you wrote.

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  • This is the most accurate shit I have ever read on #Feedback

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  • Top read, pretty much sums up everything I'm feeling... It's a -blam!-ing shame I enjoy the game so much or I would go on strike!

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  • Pretty much agree with most of it ( trading is eh, but if it was trade EXCEPT for purp and higher, ok. otherwise anyone who gets a special edition is basically wasting money) especially the Fireteam and chat options. I know that ya'll at Big B said we didn't have in game voice right now because of children, well, it aint that hard for me to mute someone. I'd rather have to do that than have to hope folks will party up to listen during strikes with randoms.

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  • Solid post, I agree with most everything you said. Very curious about Bungies plan, hopefully they have a statement on all of these concerns about content before they have a mass exodus. I'm shocked people haven't called for a boycott of the game until they get answers

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  • Wow, OP. It's a good thing CoD is releasing soon, otherwise you'd [i]never[/i] get the sand out of your pussy... Much, much crying over features that aren't in your a-typical FPS, but that's because this isn't an a-typical FPS. Destiny is much more MMO & RPG than it is a pure, boring and linear FPS. BTW; if you think Destiny is boring and lacking in content, good luck with Shadow of Mordor. Think that SP game will be better than Destiny's open world MMO RPG? Think it'll hold more stuff to do? I dno't know if it will or not, becasue the game isn't out yet. All I know is you won't be on Destiny, and that makes me very happy.

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    • TLDR

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    • This is the dlc content: 6 new missions, 1 stryke and 1 raid: I read it in this post: http://destinynews.net/expansion-content/ and in this post i read the queens wrath too. I think the dlc content is short.

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      • Ya I agree I feel like it's not finished to... But I don't think we should have to pay for the expansion pass ( I don't feel like we should have to pay for the game and then pay like 30 dollars every time there's new content) The game, psn,Xbox live, and then expansion pass..... That's alot of money ':/

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      • Add this article to your case about chopped up base game content to be sold as DLC: [spoiler]http://www.vg247.com/2014/09/28/destiny-bug-leaks-future-raid-and-expansion-content-rumour/[/spoiler]

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      • My f*cking hero.

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      • No. dont need or want global world chat to hear all the whiners, the screamers, the singers.. I would have to mute half the players of this game every time I logged in. So you leave and come back to join a FT not that big of a deal.. get over it that it took you a few moments longer to play the game.. You were not meant to be godly in the cruicble just because you have legendary or exotic armor and weapons. Queens wrath was not meant for farming shards to quickly level up yourn gear, not their fault if you failed to understand that. Dont need trading so idiots can then ask for outrages amounts for items. You are not meant to horde it all, spend it or dont worry. This is not diablo where you could have 9,999,999,999 gold. there is no need for that amount in this game. Stop needing the be able to sound whore by turning off every other sound but battle sounds especially for pvp... You are not meant to be the only one to get items in the crucible just because you did the best. This is a rng game.. the rewards at the end are bonus's and not the main reward, the main reward is the rep gains and marks. Those three blocked off area's are part of the dlc. so no they dont have to do that either just to make YOU happy.

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          I want DLC, expansions, additional content, whatever you want to call it. And I'm willing to pay more for quicker and better quality release. People bitching about costs are pathetic. If you don't have the kind of minor disposable income required to purchase this content then you may want to rethink some personal goals.

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          • Edited by MichaelBucs: 9/29/2014 2:32:31 PM
            I find the amount of respect you have for bungie is low. I find no problems with the game. I played the beta but that was all. You must have read every single information you had on the game. second, most of these items you talked about are over exaggerated, and you are going with the mind set of this not being an MMORPG. I know I will get a lot of people yelling at me for this but It has enough content and by the way it acts, it is at less a JMMORPG

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          • I don't like the lack of respect, but I do like some of the things that you exposed. I think this game has similar problems as Diablo 3 when it was released and we had to wait almost 2 years for the game to be decent when playing it. I think Destiny will have the same problem. It's an ambitious project and it will need a lot of patches to be a decent game. I work in the industry and I know is hard to find solutions for some things when you have other things waiting to be done. What bothers me, is the lack of feedback on their side, their silence about some of the major problems and not being able to admit that the game wasn't what they sold us. It can be a great game. It has some of the best gunplay I played on a FPS. But the lack of variety on the content, lack of matchmaking, voice com and many more things shows that this is an inmature game. It just needs time and love from both the community and the developers. We will have to wait several months to see this and that's the problem.

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          • Glimmer is shared by all characters I believe. But I agree one millions times with you.

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          • Best post ever, shadows of mordor ftw.

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          • Today is National coffee day.....I say you go out and take advantage of the free coffee at Dunking Doughnut and chill for a while , see the outside world, feed the birds , walk in the park....then maybe you'll realize that it's just a game and you'll enjoy a little more. Good luck to you :)

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          • Edited by l Ellz l: 9/29/2014 1:49:06 PM
            I think you play too much. Way too much.

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            • Amen.

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            • I had read there was content on the disc that was locked till the DLC. I would just like to say what a load of horse shit this is. I own the disc there was no disclaimer saying i don't get to use or play all the content on the disc. It's globally understood that the content on a disc is your in its entirety It does not matter if is a CD,DVD or game disc. Activision is doing everything in there power to completely destroy Bungees name and reputation.

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            • I like your ideas.

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