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Edited by Progressiverain: 9/28/2014 9:36:28 PM
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Dear Bungie. We don't want your DLC.

EDIT: I wanted to clarify my stance on this a little more and without the use of any blams. I don't have a problem with paid DLC. I actually prefer to the alternatives like microtransactions and monthly subscriptions. Also, as a business owner I understand the need for Bungie to turn a profit. MY problem lies with the fact that this game shipped with SO many known problems that forum goers, reviewers and columnists all voiced their opinion on during the alpha/beta and every one of them seemed to fall on deaf ears. Meanwhile, we get a game that seems unfinished. All those little areas around the worlds that SEEM like they're supposed to go somewhere but end up as a dead end. Well they DO actually go somewhere but for some reason it's been locked away. Presumably for paid DLC. The content is already there but we're going to have to pay to play it. Normally this wouldn't be an issue but the content in Destiny is already painfully short so why did they cut out these much needed areas? My problem is that Bungie seems to be so dead set on churning out additional paid content they they've left a skeleton crew of devs to support the original game. They apparently have no problem with shutting down known exploits or farming areas quite promptly but they can't add a simple skip cutscene button or volume controls? A bunch of people shooting at a black hole isn't hurting my experience. Not being able to hear voice chat over the god forsakenly loud music, communicate with other players in the world easily or not being able to play the higher difficulty content because of the lack of matchmaking however, is. We all really wanted to fall in love with Destiny and were fooled into thinking that we actually might have a chance to mold and create Destiny alongside you with our feedback during the alpha and beta, but it seems that even though you say you thrive on our feedback, you've ignored nearly all of it and that is your biggest crime. ---- Me personally, I've already canceled my "expansion pass" because I can already guess what it will include. The same shitty story revisiting the same areas we've already been to countless times. Hell, some of this DLC we can see shipped with the original game via videos of people glitching into entirely new areas that are simply walled off and you've already stated in previous interviews that your DLC will "Revisit existing areas". -blam!- that. I refuse to spend my money on more or of the same content that can be completed in a couple hours. How about instead you pull your resources off making more shitty content and fixing your existing game. Heres what we would actually pay money for: [b]1. Voice chat. [/b] You'e already said you're "working" on this and want to add it "this year" but this will only be for matchmade activities. We still won't be able to communicate with people in the wild unless we add them to our fireteam which is my next point [b]2. Fix your busted ass fireteam system[/b] I have never seen shit so clunky and -blam!-ed up in my life. I have to return to orbit and come back down at a checkpoint to join a persons fireteam when Im standing RIGHT -blam!-ING NEXT TO THEM!? I have to return to orbit when I want to leave someones fireteam!? WTF We can't talk to people unless were in a fireteam but it takes 20 -blam!-ING MINUTES OF LOAD SCREENS JUST TO DO SO And why can't I see who the -blam!- is in my fireteam unless I go to the Roster screen? UGH [b]3. Fix the -blam!-ing dpad into something usable[/b] Jesus H Christ. 4 buttons for emotes is unbelievable to me. Why not create a way for players to communicate with each other with simple hand gestures and other callouts like we suggested in the alpha and beta. We have to -blam!-ing spaz out with waving and point just to show a fellow gamer in the area that theres a chest over somewhere. A simple "Hey, Follow me" callout would fix ALL of the non-fireteam communication between players. EDIT: This is what the dpad should have been. http://i.imgur.com/FSfWoZo.jpg http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2bh3ch/idea_for_16_emotes_using_two_taps_on_dpad/ [b]4. Fix the -blam!-ing crucible [/b] "Damage is normalized" - My -blam!-ing ass. You REALLY believe a level 5 has a chance against level 30's with full legendary and exotics? Are you kidding me? Why don't you make modes ACTUALLY normalized and then create a PERMANENT Iron Banner for higher level players who actually want to use the gear theyve grinded a bullshit amount of hours to get? [b]5. Quit having "events" that are just the same -blam!-ing shit over but with a different twists[/b] Queens wrath is -blam!-ing pointless after you nerfed legendary shards. Salvage mode in the crucible should just -blam!-ing stay and Combined Arms was just a mode with only the moon and mars. Wow...just wow. "Hey guys, lets make a mode that only has the maps with vehicles and then call it an event" "BRILLIANT!" Or just let us choose what -blam!-ing maps we want to play MAYBE? [b]6. Give us some sort of trading or economy[/b] Most people will agree that your game is nothing but a grind fest after level 20 with nothing to do but play the same god forsaken shit over and over and over again. Giving us something to do other than play repeated shit over and over like trading, crafting...i dont know...-blam!-ing anything? would make this game more tolerable. I'm at max glimmer every damn time I return to the -blam!-ing tower. I can only buy so many -blam!-ing ships and ammo refills. [b]7. Remove the -blam!-ing caps on everything[/b] Im at max glimmer on both my characters, max crucible and pvp marks. Any additional I get of all three just fall off into nothingness. WTF are we supposed to do with all this stupid useless -blam!-ing currency? I've got all your different forms of your currency coming out my asshole but I can't find enough -blam!-ing shards to upgrade my armor to save my -blam!-ing life. Perhaps if we could simply trade between players to some extent this wouldn't be a -blam!-ing issue. You say you want us to "earn" our gear. REALLY? Then why did you make a -blam!-ing loot system that is 100% -blam!-ING RANDOM. I grinded my -blam!-ing BALLS off to get strange coins to buy exotics with and the same day I buy the Suros Regime my asshole friend, who has NO strange coins and plays half as much as I do gets one in the -blam!-ing crucible for free. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [b]8. Daily, Weekly and Nightfall matchmaking.[/b] You want to close off matchmaking to your impossible to complete without 5 friends raid then fine but by the time we are level 26-30 and have completed the same -blam!-ing strikes and missions a hundred times over, we don't NEED teamwork to complete these heroics. We've all done them a BILLION times already. We know the fights, we know it's the same -blam!-ing shit we did last time. I don't NEED to be on voice chat with two other people who have also done it countless times. JESUS [b]9. Fix your -blam!-ing clan system.[/b] Holy dog shit. No in game clan support? 100 member cap. Is Bungie run by -blam!-ing monkeys? [b]10. Add distance markers to patrol missions.[/b] The only thing worse than doing the same boring ass patrol missions over and over again is getting the "Go here and scan some shit" ones where you end up driving from the starting point on the moon to the deepest chasm in the tunnels just to scan something and be left in the middle of -blam!-ing no where. In which case it's faster to return to orbit and start over. Give us a "4324m" distance marker and well know to drop that piece of shit mission right then and there. [b]11. LET US TURN DOWN THE -blam!-ING MUSIC[/b] Hundreds of millions went into the development of this game and you're telling me that at no time during the last 3-5 years did anyone at Bungie go like "Hmmm...do you think we should add volume controls?" HOLY -blam!-ING SHIT [b]12. Make me feel like theres a reason to try to win in the Crucible[/b] Because right now, there basically is none. The rewards are random, the rewards for winning are damn near invisible, medals do absolutely nothing for us. Right now the only difference between a win and a loss is getting 3 marks vs. 2 marks which I'm willing to bet the majority of people didn't even know. When I see people who are AFKing in my games, but moving just enough not to get booted and getting exotic rewards and free marks for my efforts, then you know your system -blam!-ing blows asshole. [b]13. Release the three blocked off areas on earth as free content before the first DLC[/b] This is your final chance bungie. From videos on youtube we KNOW this game was shipped with those areas intact. Some full with enemies waiting for us. If you now try to sell us these areas as DLC you are going to have a -blam!-ing shit storm on your hands and there will be a lot more people like me who give up and your 'Could Be So Awesome' game. You keep saying you thrive on feedback and you're listening but I'm not going to sit here and play the same shit 100x over while I wait to see if you actually do. There are too many games being released soon to sit around and hope you get your shit together. I'll come back in a couple of months to check on your progress. Shadows of Mordor here I come. [b]EDIT: New video of glitch shows these areas already built into the original game will be sold to us as expansions[/b] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-osssAKgEc All of you who still believe the locked up areas on Earth and everywhere else will be given away as free content patches after seeing that video are delusional. GG Bungie
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  • I really like this game and can't wait for the dlc.

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  • -1 I DO WANT THE DLC! ALL OF THEM...

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  • well being that the content is already done https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07 and disc locked, i question what are they actually doing

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  • If I may add to the master list: There should be trading, just kill off Xur and make Exotics untradeable. So -blam!-ing easy. Also, who the -blam!- thought it was a good idea to not let any guardians into the Last City? Company-wise thats just lazy, Lore-wise that doesn't even make sense: "The fallen are invading the city!" "What? Yeah, that's fine." "Are you -blam!-ing serious, Shaxx?" "Naturally. You can't go there." "We swore to protect those people! The fallen are literally eating babies!" "Lol gross. Go kill 25 warlocks in my crucible skrub"

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    • You want a good story? Go read a book.

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      • Forget the emotes. Maybe have 2 different set ups for the dpad. In the social areas and patrols use it for emotes, but if you're in a strike mission or raid that thing should be for ammo only. I don't know how many times I have had an issue opening the inventory just to have to wait for it to load before I use it.

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      • at 93 hours played looks like you got your money's worth with the vanilla game.

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      • Lol because half built areas with random standard mobs is "complete content".

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      • Speak for yourself. Would love all the Destiny DLC Bungie is making and can't wait to check it out!

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        • Edited by YellowToaster: 9/30/2014 10:10:39 PM
          Sell the game and shut up. Jesus -blam!-ing Christ. I've never seen someone get this butthurt over a video game. I'm embarrassed for you.

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        • Edited by Jokermania5150: 9/30/2014 2:22:17 PM
          I was swept into Destiny the first time I saw the Traveller hanging quietly, serenely over a city. Having just saved the universe from Reapers and finally managing to receive the "Best of the Best" banner in Mass Effect 3's multiplayer, I was hungry to save humanity again. I read everything I could online. FPS check, frame rate check, other people in the levels and world as I played check, multiplayer check. I missed the Alpha and was happy when I found that the Xbox 360 was having the Beta. I played the Beta up to level 8 and had a great time. Was sorry to see my Titan go. The game got released and I was excited. I thought ahead...to the free digital upgrade to Xbox One if I bought the digital copy. I had no thoughts that I would want to sell this game so soon. Bungie could improve this game but I will not spend anymore money. Here's my story. I made my Titan again and the game play was superb, the levels vast and good looking but I beat the main story within three or four days of sporadic playing and as I set my controller down I realized I hadn't changed anything within the game. WINNING CHANGED NOTHING. I haven't played a game since the NES that rewarded me playing less than Destiny. The Tower doesn't even have a person I can trade my money for Strange Coins or Ascension Shards....I have lots of money and either everything is a level below me and useless or blocked because I do not have the rep. I may decide to work on patrols and slowly raise my Rep until New Monarch will sell me armor. I have no friends but that was never a problem in ME3. You automatically joined others, you worked together and defeated whatever was thrown at you. I felt, because of the main mission strikes, that all Strikes and Raids were going to work that way. To my disappointment it was different. I am not a multiplayer person. I, obviously, am lacking in how to sign up for a clan and team and have floundered on the app and online and on the Tower trying to find people to play with. I found two dudes once and we did the Wrath. It was not worth the hours of my life to find these people. I've been collecting bounties. Mainly grinding story missions over and over again to try and raise my Rep for New Monarch. I've raised my lvl to 26 but I'm done wasting time searching for others. I'm horrible at the Crucible and I know it but I've played with others and have been #1....my team sucked. I've been in 3v3 and had my two teammates leave. I couldn't....it was part of my bounty you see. So I'm at a crossroads. I found all the dead ghosts. I've found all the gold chests. I bought the slickest space jet available. I realized that this is the first game I've played that if others didn't play it, it would cripple this game. I hate the Crucible, I'm unwilling to waste time finding people to team up with and my character cannot advance without doing that...but for what? It's not a galaxy that I can change yet. The Traveller still sits there and everything is how it was when I started 40 hours ago.

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          • gg indeed. It's a real tragedy, actually. What a shame destiny turned out to be.

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            • i want the DLC thank you very much.good day

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            • I agree with a lot of the points on here. I feel like the system is extremely flawed. I would have rather waited another month or two for the release of a solid finished product instead of waiting here for some feedback we will never hear

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            • Vert harsh, very well deserved. Is bungie run by monkeys as you claim? Literally all signs point to yea, yea it is. SNES games had sound options, this is insanity in 2014

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            • -blam!- yes. Someone who knows exactly what I think and feel. If bungie is smart, they'll listen to at least half this

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            • The first two DLC "Expansions" should have been a part of the shipped game. There isn't enough content for 1 month let alone 3... The Next Expansion should be a new place on Earth or a different planet all together, Mercury would be nice, Europa, Titan... a derilict colony ship... New places on Earth and Moon just seem lazy. The game was sold as an online, co-op, awesome graphics, outstanding music, epic and immersive story, powerful unique weapons and gear expansive and dynamic space exploration with a side of PvP, when you get bored... and we got shafted.. The story is EXTREMELY lacking, the "Shared" world is silent (voiced emotes would be better then the wave, point, dance, and sit.), the gear and weapons are powerful but not unique, Exploration is right out... going anywhere (within reason) that seems explorable will net you a quick death, Online it is.. painfully obvious at times when you get kicked from a strike or fireteam for no apparent reason.. To me the game feels rushed and incomplete (much like Halo 2.. poor Bungie) and that is a real shame. Hopefully they can fix the storyline and lore (more then some Grimoire cards VERY few people have read), the communication, sound options, would be nice to have a 4/5/6 man fireteam to do missions and strike with ( I have 4-6 friends who play Destiny and its sad when we all can't fireteam a mission or strike).. Well.. I'm looking to the Future.. Hopeful

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            • I already paid for dlc so it better be good.

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            • Auck Fctivision

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            • Couldn't agree more with your points. Such a tragic disappointment from what we were lead to believe. Apparently we had 10% of the game in beta.... I find it very, very hard to believe. That said, I enjoy the game. It had/has the potential to be something special. Pull your fingers out a win people back!

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              • I want the dlc but I agree with everything you said

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              • Totally agree if those areas and missions are not available until December then I will be done too many good games coming out to keep playing same strikes hundreds of times

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              • I want the dlc

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                • lol @ people who complain about this game. It's an MMO. It's run like an MMO and mechanically plays like an MMO. I'll be glad when CoD comes out. This will take care of the vast majority of the bitching.

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                  • Holy shit! I love the d-pad stuff http://i.imgur.com/FSfWoZo.jpg I wouldn't mind the d-pad being used for swapping weapon load outs real fast. I could use the ghost screen for that though. Looks like you didn't mention a "Hit Y to go to Tower" instead of orbit feature. I would like that.

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                  • I think your over reacting a little but most of your points are true, except the trade system. If people who grinded the game out as much as possible gave lazy, low levels legendary gear then that's pretty unfair and I doubt they grinders would do that, it's retarded.then we have people who bitch about not getting anything and are lazy and impatient. Do not worry, your time will come. Destiny was made to grind so if you want the gear your going to have to work/grind for it.

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