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Easy response. Democrats tend to focus on social programs that help the poor, sick and elderly. Just like that other radical, Jesus. Democrats are also in favor of income equality. I seem to remember a certain Jewish radical flipping the tables of the money changer capitalists set up in the temple. Jesus even made a point to demonstrate the inequity in the widows coin offering at the temple. Striving for a fair minimum wage is another democratic tent pole. Jesus Christ healed the sick and tended to the wounds of the poor forgotten people, nowadays we scoff at obamacare but I see it as an powerful Christian act of compassion. Republicans tend to stir Christian fundamental rage around election time... do your best to remain unmanipulated. Vote however you choose but please be skeptical of both sides. Recall Jesus chiding the pharasees for adhering strictly to religious dogma instead of the spirit of gods word. I could go on but I think I will give you an opportunity to turn the other cheek.
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  • The guy who created this thread is just a tad bit more ignorant than you are. If you'd like, I can take you through each point you brought up and how you are misinformed. But I'm not going to waste both our time if you're not going to listen. Just let me know.

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  • Not sure what you mean. I am a Christian and a democrat. Paul said that we should be our brothers keeper. Those policies seem to be more reflected by the dems. Neither party is aperfect dogmatic theocracy. If you want that,I hear Isis is accepting applications. Modern Christians should understand that every time they try to impose a belief or practice on nonmembers, they make enemies for members of the church. Why chew someone's head off over the diff between happy holidays or merry Christmas? The person or store is trying to be kind and getting pissy over semantics is more pharrassee than Christ, don't ya think? Democrats seem to understand that this country is made up of many faiths, one of which is Christianity. That's what makes this county great. The sum of its parts is greater than the whole.

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  • All the policies and such that you said reflect Christianity don't. Christianity stresses giving to the poor, but not forced giving. It's not charity if you take from one person and give it to another, whether rich or poor. That's theft, and the Bible is clear on that. That's just one example of your intent being right but using the wrong means.

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  • Even Jesus agreed with paying taxes. Ceasars to Caesar and all that. And he believed in helping the less fortunate. Why are you so opposed to helping the sick, poor and elderly? You really want to plant your soapbox here? You know you sound like a Disney villain when you do that, right?

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  • I wasn't making an argument for or against taxes. I don't know why you're calling me a Disney villain. That's some weird ad hominem. I believe in taxes. The cost of choosing to live in a safe society is paying the government. It makes sense:I give them something, they give me something back. It's like an employer/employee relationship. Problems begin when the government no longer exists for the people, but the people exist for the government. I have nothing against helping the sick elderly etc. But the means are just as important as the ends and I believe the Democrat way of doing it is essentially flawed and wrong. You still didn't address my comment about theft.

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  • I have no problem with helping the poor, the difference is jesus didn't use people's money to help the poor

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  • He did collect food from the crowd gathered at mount saini and redistribute it to the hungry crowd. Sounds like socialism to me. Lol. You are never gonna win this if you don't even know the source material.

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  • [quote]He did collect food from the crowd gathered at mount saini and redistribute it to the hungry crowd. Sounds like socialism to me. Lol. You are never gonna win this if you don't even know the source material.[/quote] He asked for donations, then gave out the donated food. That is nothing like socialism. Listen kid, we all realize you are probably fifteen and just spouting the craps you were taught in school. We were all there once. It all sounds good until you have actual life experience to show you where the flaws are. You want an example of socialisms redistribution? Have every one of your belongings taken and given away, then go work earn more, have all that taken away too, because you didn't earn it and don't deserve to keep what you worked for, then go work some more, and have everything you work for used to keep your friends happy playing video games eating fritos. Rise repeat. Obama said it best when he told America's innovators "you didn't build that". Id explain more, but gotta go work, so I can pay taxes, so lazy people can sit on their asses. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_izYhdehY

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  • Bitter much? Obama was talking about the national infrastructure companies use to transport goods. They did not build the roads, bridges and power grid. Try not to base your life decisions on republican propaganda sound bites. I do have life experiences.I am an adult. I'm just not OK with blaming my life problems on minorities, gays, the poor, or the sick. Thats all. I grew up and somehow didn't become a money grubbing bigot. I didn't think it was much of an accomplishment but after reading this forum, I think I am some kind of rarity. Jesus engaged in redistribution of food, thats either taxes or socialism. Socialism is organized compassion. I have no problem with our country having a safety net for the downtrodden. Because I'm not a dick. Only a dick would look at a poor single mother and say, fend for yourself. Before obamacare, insurance companies would take your money and then deny coverage when you needed them. Thats the kind of garbage that happens when ayn rand fanatics get to drive capitalism. Maybe you don't know a single person whose ever been down on their luck.

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  • Edited by Tinmann77: 9/29/2014 10:56:30 PM
    [quote]Bitter much? Obama was talking about the national infrastructure companies use to transport goods. They did not build the roads, bridges and power grid. Try not to base your life decisions on republican propaganda sound bites. I do have life experiences.I am an adult. I'm just not OK with blaming my life problems on minorities, gays, the poor, or the sick. Thats all. I grew up and somehow didn't become a money grubbing bigot. I didn't think it was much of an accomplishment but after reading this forum, I think I am some kind of rarity. Jesus engaged in redistribution of food, thats either taxes or socialism. Socialism is organized compassion. I have no problem with our country having a safety net for the downtrodden. Because I'm not a dick. Only a dick would look at a poor single mother and say, fend for yourself. Before obamacare, insurance companies would take your money and then deny coverage when you needed them. Thats the kind of garbage that happens when ayn rand fanatics get to drive capitalism. Maybe you don't know a single person whose ever been down on their luck.[/quote] Lmao. Says the rich kid. I was raised by a single mother who raised two of us, put us in private school, while working two jobs and going to college. I was taught to work hard and not accept a government handout which would keep you from making a better life by forcing you to stay in a low pay job to get benefits. Every couple years my mom got a better job as she completed necessary schooling for promotion. Yet my first tv, my first game console, and every video game I have ever bought was paid for with money I worked hard to earn doing yard work, collecting recycling, Washing cars, tutoring, until I was old enough to get a real job, then I worked that. By the sweat of my brow i earned every toy I have, while paying for my ex-fiancee to go to surgical school. Nobody deserves my money more then me, do I help out others who are less fortunate, yes. Do I refuse to help someone who has tried to take advantage of me, yes. I will give them advice, but not my cash after someone tries to screw me. People sitting on the couch cause it's easier, -blam!- them. People using ebt at a strip club, tattoo parlor, pot shop, or to buy junk food or to get cash back, -blam!- them. Welfare was designed as a five year program to get the country on its feet after great depression, dems have enslaved generations by expanding the program well beyond its intended use. And don't get me started on food stamps, Obama has expanded that program exponentially, yet we can't even audit it for fraud, which the dems admit the system is rife with. And I've paid for my own health insurance since the day I turned 18. Never once had treatment denied. I've already said the three lines needed to do everything which Obama promised, why is it now over 10k pages with the rules? Go read the -blam!-ing thing, then tell me how good it is. Before the individual mandate kicked in I predicated those people losing their plans, because I read that section. Wait till employer mandate kicks in 10x as many will lose their insurance. "Oh that's because corps are greedy" nope, it's because every single male doesn't have plans that cover maternity, breast exam, neonatal, gynecological exams, birth control, and single females don't have prostate coverage, testicular cancer screenings, and other male only coverage. Because there is no reason to have them. I have what Obama describes as Cadillac coverage because my insurance is so good, and me and my employer pay a decent price for it, yet I'll be losing mine because I'm a single male, and not paying for coverage I don't need since I'm not a chick.

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  • Yeah similar story here. Still disagree with most of your points though. I guess we can wait to see if Obama care continues to be a success. I know you have better things to do than recite right wing rhetoric into forums and receive left wing rhetoric in return. If you are playing on Xbox 360 send a friend request and we can continue this while we kill fallen.

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  • [quote]Yeah similar story here. Still disagree with most of your points though. I guess we can wait to see if Obama care continues to be a success. I know you have better things to do than recite right wing rhetoric into forums and receive left wing rhetoric in return. If you are playing on Xbox 360 send a friend request and we can continue this while we kill fallen.[/quote] Continues to be? Hhs originally 12m would have to sign up, less then 9m signed up. Looking closer at those numbers 3+m were normal Medicare renewals not affected by the law, 4.5m were the people who were kicked off their plans. So less then 500k people who didn't have insurance signed up. Those numbers are from Obama's hhs. So, as you so eloquently pulled out of your ass in your post denigrating voter id That's less then 0.09% so why should we have changed anything.

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  • OK I tried to be friendly. You may just hate your fellow Americans too much to want basic human services to be provided to them. I don't . Obamacare was slandered by right wing groups and the medical industry who both stood to lose the customers they had been gouging for years. Preexisting conditions must now be covered! That alone is worth the ticket price. Incentives in place to stop recitivism at hospitals whose only aim was to get the medicaid payout and then turn the patient out into the street, healthy or not. There are aspects of obamacare that are not ideal. Such as the weird private,public hybrid. I attribute those to obamatrying foolishly in the early draft to get republicans on board. Don't be angry if your policy changes to cope with the new law. That'd just the greedy insurance companies trying to stop you from getting what you paid for. Who could complain about more people having access to healthcare. Only a dick would say, they should have to get a better job before the poor can be as healthy as I am har har har... Otherwise I think we could have had single payer and kill insurance scam companies all together. I sense you must be an older white fellow making over 50 k? Don't be angry at immigrants and poor people for the declining economy. Its people well above our pay grade driving us off the fiscal cliff. More and more people are signing up for the exchange every day and republicans are crapping themselves because the big failure they lied about never happened. So go ahead and complain about the quality of life improving for those less fortunate...the people following this post can tell which one of our arguments makes the person sound like a selfish bigoted curmudgeon. Best of luck to you in your future endeavors.

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  • Again you fall back on liberal propaganda. Why do you need 10k pages to do a law that states: Article 1. No person may be denied health insurance for a pre-existing condition. Article 2. No person with a pre-existing condition can be charged more then a person of the same demographic without the pre-existing condition. Article 3. Insurance prices may not rise above their current rate faster then the rate of inflation. Bam. Everyone can now have healthcare and skyrocketing costs are held in check. Much better law then Obama care and it wouldn't even be one page. One of the founding fathers, James Madison I believe, said it best. No law should be so voluminous that it cannot easily be read and understood by the general populace. You say I'm against people having basic human services, but every time a law is passed to "provide" those services liberals expand the definition of "basic". Joe Biden even admitted after the law was passed that more then 90% of the then uninsured would remain uninsured and be subject to the fine. How is that providing basic human services? I'm all for prison work farms which teach skills like farming, animal husbandry, carpentry, welding, sewing, dog training, veterinary aid, to teach convicts a skill so that when they serve their sentence they can go out and get a job. Liberals call such programs racist (doesn't matter to them if the convict is white black Hispanic Asian or Martian) and get them shut down. The recidivism rate among convicts who have engaged in such programs is less then 5% which is an extremely dramatic drop, since the average recidivism rate is near 80%. I'm in my thirties, which probably seems ancient to a child like you, yes I make over 50k a year, which still has me lower middle class. And like I pointed out earlier, I paid Damn near 1/2 that in taxes. I work hard for my money, 10hrs a day 5days a week. That's a fifty hour work week since you probably learned math with common core. And thanks to awesome union bargaining agreements my employer doesn't even have to follow federal law and pay me time and a half for that extra ten hours each week. Immigrants? I love them. My great grand parents are from all over the world, except my grandmother's mother who was from a Chinook tribe that no longer exists due to the federal gov deciding tribes only exist if it has x number of members with x% of blood from that tribe. Half/half from two tribes? Nope that's only a halfbreed. I'm against people who, for not reason other then they are too stupid or lazy to ask how, never attempt to legally enter. Yet these same people easily find out how to cross illegal and easily find smugglers who they can pay thousands to for entry. Did you follow my advice and go to the US consulate website and look at visa cost and application process? Basically you need your address in your country, employer address, two bills which show where you live (phone,cell,water,electric,cc) and a bank account with a minimum of 500 peso balance over the previous 6 months (that's $50 to you uneducated liberals) and your passport and one other form of id. Every single Mexican citizen has a Mexican Id once they turn 18, it's their Mexican voter registration card it also acts as a dl and any other form of Id they might need. So it's supper hard isn't it? I need more then that when I apply for a bank account, or car loan or anything else. And if you are saying that coming here and getting everything free is a basic human right, -blam!- you, give me your address so I can go there and get everything free from you. Blame the poor for declining economy? I have never once blamed the poor. I blame excessive taxation for the declining economy. The more I get taxed the less I spend on stuff I want, I reduce my expenses to what I need. When I was in my 20s I spent half my money on "entertainment" everything from gping to movies, buying DVD s, cds, games, electronics, bar hopping, camping, going to amusment parks, travel. I've spent less then $500 this year on entertainment related expenses. Companies are hiring less, and laying off more and moving out of state/country due to massive tax hikes and cheaper taxes elsewhere. I was a Californian most of my life, but since their state tax is about 15%, just state not state and fed, I will never move back there. Here in az, due to my pay, I'm up to 6% and as soon as I find an equally or better pay in one of the no tax states, or I retire in 30 yrs, then I'll go there. Who voted in a law which would have given big pharm billions and raised the price of prescription drugs 400%? Who then repealed that same law once it was putted by Fox news? The democratic party. Title 9 of the aca. Who gave banks billions to use as bonuses for their crow? Dems. Who gave the auto industry billions, to use as bonuses for there ceos? Dems Who gives billions to companies in "green industries" , companies tahtbtake the money and promptly go bankrupt without having produced anything. Dems. Which party has more candidates who own private jets? Dems. Who supports the movie industry getting more tax breaks then any other industry? Dems. "but repubs protect big oil and wall street" umm see my comment about the banks above, and no, big oil is equally supported by both parties. " but repubs support the military industrial sector" yeah, so do dems when it's in their district, dems get funding from mil-industry all the time. Look at dc, it has been democrat since it was created, not one single republican has every been elected to run it ("state" LvL not fed, were talking about the district not the Fed gov) yet big mil has several offices there and get several tax breaks there, from dems. I have yet to meet one person whose quality of life has improved since 2008. I do on the other hand know dozens whose quality has gone down. My insurance premiums have tripled yet the employer mandate hasn't even kicked in yet. I know several people (one of whom I'm dating) who can no longer afford their basic bills on one job because their employers have cut hours to get around loopholes which were built into obamacare. They now have to work more hours spread over two jobs for less pay then if they had been working one, they get to see their significant other less, their kids less, their extended family less, their friends less, hell even their pets less. But according to you their lives are better. Grow the -blam!- up and open your eyes. Tommorow you write a survey, with ten questions. 1. Has your quality of life improved in the last ten years. 2. Do you have health insurance. 3. Has Obama care made a difference in you having/not having insurance. 4. Is "climate change" a worse threat to you then terrorism? 5. How many states are there? (Obama thinks 58, I can link the fund raiser he said he visited 57 states and had one more to go) 6. Which party controls congress? (correct answer is dems control Senate and repub control house) 7. Who is the Senate majority leader? 8. Do you agree people should be allowed to come into the US without any process? 9. Which party do you identify with? 10. What happened in bengazhi? Some additional you can ask are Who is ISIS, what do they want. Do you agree with sharia law? What is happening in Ukraine. Where is Crimea. Which is stricter Mexican immigration or ours? Hint : answer is mexico. What is the punishment for illegally entering Iran. How is socialism treating Venezuela? What percentage of GDP does Germany spend on socialized healthcare? England? Canada? Follow up would be what percentage of GDP is the US projected at spending? How much of fed budget goes to social programs vs military. Include all social programs since all military spending foreign and domestic is lumped together. How much money does the US give out in foreign aid every year? Follow up, how much of that is to countries that hate us and/or are totally corrupt. Then go stand in front of a grocery store and ask every person who passes you to answer them. Then every day for ten days go to different store and do the same. ie Safeway, Frys, Costco, Wal-Mart, family dollar, 99¢ store. Then look at the answers, you sir will be surprised.

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  • This thread was originally about being christian and political, so let me ask you how you feel if those filthy immigrants are most likely fellow christians seeking a better life? Does that lens help you understand that they are people in dire situations. Also consider how the new pope feels about the ham fisted greed of capitalism. Spoiler alert, the top catholic says its Christlike to tend to the needs of the poor. Christ helped the poor. The pope helps the poor. I help the poor. Its good for your soul. Unless you are not a christian. In which case I can switch gears to help you come into your empathy.

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  • [quote]This thread was originally about being christian and political, so let me ask you how you feel if those filthy immigrants are most likely fellow christians seeking a better life? Does that lens help you understand that they are people in dire situations. Also consider how the new pope feels about the ham fisted greed of capitalism. Spoiler alert, the top catholic says its Christlike to tend to the needs of the poor. Christ helped the poor. The pope helps the poor. I help the poor. Its good for your soul. Unless you are not a christian. In which case I can switch gears to help you come into your empathy.[/quote] Again with rhetoric and putting words in people's mouths. Who called anyone filthy? You. Who is against immigration? Nobody here. Who is against people who make a conscious choice to break the law, while paying criminals to help them break the law, instead of trying to do something the legal way? Me and everyone with half a brain. I'm totally for legal immigration, I deal with dozens of illegals every day informing them on the legal process to obtain a visa. As I stated before , in the seven years I've been in Arizona, of the thousands of illegals I've dealt with, only three knew where to apply, only two of those three had applied (the third didn't because he had previously been deported after being arrested for a felony so wasn't eligible) of those two, one applied on a Thursday, and I was speaking with her in the US the very next friday because she had jumped the fence and got caught. Her reason "they didn't get back to me". Yet every single illegal has been able to find a smuggler to get them into the United States. Funny how they can find a criminal so easily, but it's too hard for them to ask one of the 30-40k Mexicans who legallly cross daily through the port of entry, yards from where they found their smuggler, how to get a visa. And it got off religion because once you lost your point you began spouting liberal propaganda about immigration, war, politics, and health-care. For a great memory you don't seem to recall much.

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  • Benghazi was a warzone and people working there knew the risks. A barracks full of troops would have been overrun. Our allies didn't pick up the phone. It suck that it happened. Repubs seem to not understand that everyone in the country knows it was a hazard of the job. Remember when repubs took us into Iraq? If repubs expect to get any traction on Benghazi, they will first have to explain those imaginary wmds. That lie still makes my blood boil. All of those poor kids recruited from poor neighbor hoods and tossed into ieds meant for bush and RUmsfield. Yeah republican lies tend to not work on anybody with a memory. Lol.

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  • Edited by Tinmann77: 10/1/2014 12:02:08 AM
    [quote]Benghazi was a warzone and people working there knew the risks. A barracks full of troops would have been overrun. Our allies didn't pick up the phone. It suck that it happened. Repubs seem to not understand that everyone in the country knows it was a hazard of the job. Remember when repubs took us into Iraq? If repubs expect to get any traction on Benghazi, they will first have to explain those imaginary wmds. That lie still makes my blood boil. All of those poor kids recruited from poor neighbor hoods and tossed into ieds meant for bush and RUmsfield. Yeah republican lies tend to not work on anybody with a memory. Lol.[/quote] No bengahzi wasn't, it's in Libya who is not at war with anyone. Also, our Secretary of state , Hillary Clinton, had the same Intel that every other gov had regarding terrorists attacks being planned, yet we were the only country who made the decision not to pull out ambassador out. Repubs took us to Iraq? Umm, hard to admit I know, but every dem except one in the Senate and one in the house voted YES for use of military force in Iraq. We can link YouTube videos all day of dems screaming for Bush to do something to "kill those savage heathens!" And as I've said before, every Gov that joined us, and there were 37, had that same Intel. We didn't give it to them their intelligence agencies did. Saddam claimed publicly multiple times, in fact one of the reasons that Iran didn't invade them to prevent the slaughter of Shia was because Saddam threatened to nuke them. Everyone believed that lie, because Intel said they had nukes and they claimed to have nukes so simplest scenarios is THEY HAVE NUKES! This time the simplest wasn't right, and Bush apologized for that. Multiple times. How many times was bengahzi blames on a YouTube video? It's been proven that nobody in the intelligence community blamed it, Libya said it was terrorists from day one, yet for 19 days our administration went on talk shows blaming a video, the maker of which is still locked in solitary confinement. To this day nobody has apologized for making that craps up, they blame the Intel community. Those poor kids recruited for Bush and Rumsfeld? What did Bush or Rumsfeld get out of it? We sure as hell didn't get any oil out of it, because to this day we haven't imported one gallon of Iraqi oil. And as a member of the army national guard who served a deployment in 04-05 and in 09-10, when Bush was in charge the contractors were building schools, hospitals, fixing power plants and water treatment centers. Under Obama's admin, the contractors build multi million dollar dining facilities that were basically a warehouse here in the US on based that already had d-facs and were scheduled to close, and tore up perfectly good roads to make pressed dirt roads, which they then bid on replacing. First hand eye witness here. Contractors were being paid up to 250k untaxed under O, but Bush had the tax free capped at 100k. And for someone with a memory, you seem to not remember all the lies which have been proven lies from dems. But that's ok, cause they just have our best interest at heart. I watched Obama give a speech shortly before the sequester. Speaking to an audience of union carpenters, electricians, and other building trades, he called repubs criminal for wanting to negotiate on the budget, then he says that would be like union guys going in front of a factory and saying they would shut it down if they didn't get better pay, and then says that would be criminal and they should be put in jail if they threatened that.... The next day when he was giving another speech he conveniently reinvented what he said. Sequester was all repubs fault right? Ummm, sorry it was offered up by the O man himself. Which candidate saw Russia's posturing for a prelude to invasion and which made jokes about it? Hint Obama was the second Which candidate for president didn't know how many states there are? Which vice-president called Obama a light skinned black with almost no negro accent? Not a republican. How many dem politicians were charged in various sex abuse crimes? But it's the repubs who have the war on women? Which presidents were known to have affairs in the Whitehouse? JFK and clinton. For a great memory, you probably don't remember these. How about if you like your plan? Like your doctor? The aca will cause the average person to pay 25000 less (turns out the average increase is 4k not -2.5k) but all is forgiven cause it's from libs. I trashed your earlier reply which is filled with nothing but incorrect rhetoric, but with all the YouTube links it crashed the app and I'm not gonna bother retyping it right now.

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  • Oh goodness you think you're winning. Lol.

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  • [quote]Oh goodness you think you're winning. Lol.[/quote] Well since you're a liberal fanatic, I'll never open your eyes. But you have yet to discount even one of my points with anything But rhetoric. When you can't discount my points you spew rhetoric and attempt to change the subject.

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  • I will not type 1200 word counter points to your cut and paste conservative propaganda on my sons crappy tablet keyboard. The fact I have granted you this much attention is a giant kindness on my part. I could tell from the way you fell easily into party position that there was little chance for change in you. I just hope anyone so ready to blame others for their hard day at work is not armed. Be safe and please think before you go stalking a clocktower when you realize that the world doesn't fit the fox news narrative.

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  • [quote]I will not type 1200 word counter points to your cut and paste conservative propaganda on my sons crappy tablet keyboard. The fact I have granted you this much attention is a giant kindness on my part. I could tell from the way you fell easily into party position that there was little chance for change in you. I just hope anyone so ready to blame others for their hard day at work is not armed. Be safe and please think before you go stalking a clocktower when you realize that the world doesn't fit the fox news narrative.[/quote] Yes because the Fox narrative it controlling the media. Which states have the highest unemployment rate and which states are dem controlled?

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  • RANK STATE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE 1 NORTH DAKOTA 2.8 2 NEBRASKA 3.6 2 UTAH 3.6 4 SOUTH DAKOTA 3.7 4 VERMONT 3.7 6 HAWAII 4.4 6 NEW HAMPSHIRE 4.4 6 WYOMING 4.4 9 IOWA 4.5 9 MINNESOTA 4.5 11 MONTANA 4.6 11 OKLAHOMA 4.6 13 IDAHO 4.8 14 KANSAS 4.9 15 TEXAS 5.1 16 COLORADO 5.3 17 LOUISIANA 5.4 17 VIRGINIA 5.4 19 MAINE 5.5 20 MASSACHUSETTS 5.6 20 WASHINGTON 5.6 22 OHIO 5.7 22 PENNSYLVANIA 5.7 22 SOUTH CAROLINA 5.7 25 WISCONSIN 5.8 26 INDIANA 5.9 27 MARYLAND 6.1 28 ARKANSAS 6.2 28 DELAWARE 6.2 28 FLORIDA 6.2 31 WEST VIRGINIA 6.3 32 ALASKA 6.5 32 MISSOURI 6.5 32 NEW JERSEY 6.5 32 NORTH CAROLINA 6.5 36 CONNECTICUT 6.6 36 NEW MEXICO 6.6 36 NEW YORK 6.6 39 ILLINOIS 6.8 40 OREGON 6.9 41 ALABAMA 7.0 41 ARIZONA 7.0 43 TENNESSEE 7.1 44 CALIFORNIA 7.4 44 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 7.4 44 KENTUCKY 7.4 47 MICHIGAN 7.7 47 NEVADA 7.7 47 RHODE ISLAND 7.7 50 GEORGIA 7.8/Td> 51 MISSISSIPPI 8.0 OK Mississippi is a red state right? Highest ranked unemployment at a rate of 8.0. Next highest is a little republican bastion known as Georgia at 7.8. Ain't that a peach? Geeze Kentucky is flagging at 7.4, compared to new Yorks 6.6, I think we are starting to understand that you might be hiding misinformation in giant blocks of text. OK let's compare the big dogs... Texas, the cradle of the right wing, is suffering with a modest unemployment rate of 5.1. Seems good right? Vermont, that lefty haven, is gloating with a 3.7. What? 3.7! And democrat? Hmmm. Go play destiny. Stop wasting both our time.

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  • [quote]RANK STATE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE 1 NORTH DAKOTA 2.8 2 NEBRASKA 3.6 2 UTAH 3.6 4 SOUTH DAKOTA 3.7 4 VERMONT 3.7 6 HAWAII 4.4 6 NEW HAMPSHIRE 4.4 6 WYOMING 4.4 9 IOWA 4.5 9 MINNESOTA 4.5 11 MONTANA 4.6 11 OKLAHOMA 4.6 13 IDAHO 4.8 14 KANSAS 4.9 15 TEXAS 5.1 16 COLORADO 5.3 17 LOUISIANA 5.4 17 VIRGINIA 5.4 19 MAINE 5.5 20 MASSACHUSETTS 5.6 20 WASHINGTON 5.6 22 OHIO 5.7 22 PENNSYLVANIA 5.7 22 SOUTH CAROLINA 5.7 25 WISCONSIN 5.8 26 INDIANA 5.9 27 MARYLAND 6.1 28 ARKANSAS 6.2 28 DELAWARE 6.2 28 FLORIDA 6.2 31 WEST VIRGINIA 6.3 32 ALASKA 6.5 32 MISSOURI 6.5 32 NEW JERSEY 6.5 32 NORTH CAROLINA 6.5 36 CONNECTICUT 6.6 36 NEW MEXICO 6.6 36 NEW YORK 6.6 39 ILLINOIS 6.8 40 OREGON 6.9 41 ALABAMA 7.0 41 ARIZONA 7.0 43 TENNESSEE 7.1 44 CALIFORNIA 7.4 44 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 7.4 44 KENTUCKY 7.4 47 MICHIGAN 7.7 47 NEVADA 7.7 47 RHODE ISLAND 7.7 50 GEORGIA 7.8/Td> 51 MISSISSIPPI 8.0 OK Mississippi is a red state right? Highest ranked unemployment at a rate of 8.0. Next highest is a little republican bastion known as Georgia at 7.8. Ain't that a peach? Geeze Kentucky is flagging at 7.4, compared to new Yorks 6.6, I think we are starting to understand that you might be hiding misinformation in giant blocks of text. OK let's compare the big dogs... Texas, the cradle of the right wing, is suffering with a modest unemployment rate of 5.1. Seems good right? Vermont, that lefty haven, is gloating with a 3.7. What? 3.7! And democrat? Hmmm. Go play destiny. Stop wasting both our time.[/quote] Being as those numbers don't average out to what the Fed says the unemployment rate is, you obviously have the wrong numbers.

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  • Or you do. Good day sir.

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