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9/20/2014 5:21:52 AM
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Very insightful. Exploiting a glitch (though we cannot say if it is one or not) and farming are similar in your opinion. Thank you again for your insight.
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Farming and exploiting a glitch are two completely different things. A glitch is something that is not supposed to be there, its game breaking and gives people an unfair advantage. Farming is simply finding a quick efficent way to kill enemies over and over again. A glitch would involve a player doing something out of the norm to get to a place or acheive a result that they should not be able to and is often a bannable offense. There are people that know how to get outside of the map, thats a glitch. Figureing out how enemies spawn, thats just something gamers do all the time, its observation, in mass effect mp, people will stand here here and here so that enemeis won't spawn behind you or on your flank, its smart tactical play. Standing outside a cave far enough away so you don't stop enemies from spawning them and spraying them with bullets is not a glitch, its simply being observant and finding an efficent way to kill enemies really fast, if it bugs bungie, they'll change the spawn zones and such and I garuntee you, no will not get banned for having farmed the loot cave.
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Your insight is greatly appreciated and you made many good points. However I do see a difference between skillfully placing yourself in a location to avoid enemy fire while farming as opposed to positioning yourself in line of sight of an enemy spawn location (far enough away that enemies spawn much more often than not).
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lol, there's no question thats its cheap and requires no skill. But then, farming has never been about skill or difficulty, its about whats fast, easy, and gets results, personally, I've not done this for more than 20 minutes at a time, I get bored with it far too easy, I'll slip in on an invite from a friend, stick around enough to get a few blues, then wander back again to working on my bounties and getting my various faction reps up. I love the fact that you can farm, but its not necessary, you can get all you need from simple grinding, have my hunter up to lvl 26, with a crucible rep of 1, a vanguard rep of 3, and nearly a dead orbit rep of 1 and am working on two exotic bounties and am working on getting my warlock up to 20 so I can use the exotic chest piece I got for her off the engram ou can buy from xur
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Instead of waiting to instakill the enemies out in the open, you instead do it when they spawn. What's the difference? Either way, you're obliterating them easily.
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The difference is the easiness of one compared to the other in attaining the loot. On the one hand two players stand outside of a spawn range exploiting the spawn line in which Bungie made (either intentionally for the farming purpose or unintentionally for the farming purpose). The one which is an exploit gathers you more engrams on average than any method where the players move about. These two aspects are the foundation of my opposition to the farming method which takes advantage of spawn lines. Someone pointed out that Bungie would have fixed this already if it were unintentional. I will say that if the map designes for these spots is not changed then by all means I will agree with everyone who claims this is apart of the game Bungie intended to make. In summary I will agree with everyone who supports this exploit if nothing is done about it, in the meantime I see it as a sad mistake on Bungie/Activision's part.
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Edited by Sunsdune: 9/20/2014 8:48:49 AMIt is intended , as every planet has at least one area with similar mechanics.
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Its not an exploit or a glitch both involve errors in code or unintended results... It's basic farming which is in every rpg style game ever (possible exaggeration but never played one where it wasn't)
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They're both as easy as each other, don't you get that? Killing them in the open just takes one or two seconds longer.
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Possibly an experiment would suffice to convince me of what you said. Otherwise, franly, not convinced.
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The cave isn't a glitch. Just saying. If you've played an MMO, you should know.
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I appreciate your contrary opinion.
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It's not an opinion, it's a fact. I've played enough MMOs to know how spawn areas and farming works.
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Then I will consider your evidence as evidence from an expert. Thank you again for that evidence.
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[quote]Then I will consider your evidence as evidence from an expert. Thank you again for that evidence.[/quote] I would like to think that your comment also applies to yourself. I don't think you're anything close to an "expert" for assuming cave farming is a glitch.
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Well my expertise has eluded you as I myself have played many MMO games. I figure that makes us both self proclaimed experts with evidence supporting both sides. Would you agree?
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They're is no 'evidence' to it being a glitch because... Dun dun dun. Definitions.
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Well, I stand by my "opinion" that I call fact, and you stand by yours, and I will respect that. I'm not going to try to convince you wrong. Rhetorical question: What do you think you're gaining from all the commotion you're starting? I don't think it's going to change anything honestly.
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I honestly am hoping someone could convince me. I only mean to make commotion to get more people to convince me possibly.
