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Edited by Max Powers: 9/26/2014 10:22:03 PM
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SHOW BUNGIE WE DO NOT WANT A TRADE SYSTEM

No I don't want a trade system

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Yes I want a trade system

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Destiny is without a doubt the best game I've ever played, you guys have nailed it. There is only one thing that could cheapen this amazing game and potentially turn players away ... a player to player trade system. Bungie community, join me and speak up about this pressing issue that has the potential to cheapen this stunning game. Do you value the hard work it takes to earn cool gear? Or do you not value the hard work it takes? "Become Legend", this tag line says it all. It insinuates that you will work to develop your character and thus work towards becoming a legend. We don't want to trade so that we look like a legend. The way the gear looks in destiny is stunning. When you see someone cruise past you in the tower with a sweet piece of gear, you know he's worked to achieve it. That is an amazing feat for a game developer, to create such awesome looking kit that everyone wants. If Bungie implement a player to player trade system this will be meaningless. The whole experience of earning something special is cheapened. To think that a noob who's played for a week and hit 20 could be given gear from his highly experienced and dedicated mate is a sad thought. All of a sudden the last two months I spent earning that same piece of gear are worthless. The pride I had for my equipment, lost. There are many of us who experienced this on games like World of Warcraft, Borderlands and Diablo and felt that it ruined the game. So much that I stopped playing games that I used to love. I would like to quote a few bungie developers from the video "out here in the wild" in the hope that if enough people vote on this, if our voice is strong enough, we can get bungie to make a firm stance against a trade system. Christopher Barrett, art director "the number one priority was to make a world that people wanted to be in, something that you want to go back to and you want to explore". If there is a trade system it will cheapen the game and people will lose excitement about going back and exploring. Luke Smith, design lead "you're going to see a guy wielding the cudgel of zanthor or the fate of all fools or whatever crazy names the writers come up with for these weapons and armor, you're going to understand where they came from and what they went through to get there". Man does this quote sum up my argument. With a player to player trade system we will NOT understand what anyone has been through to get their gear. In fact, we won't even know how long they will have been playing the game. *Edit: A lot of great counter arguments have been made on this post and I should clarify. I am certainly not opposed to a well done trade system e.g. if items could only be traded for equal level items, or include a BOA or BOP system for high tier gear. I was referring to the AH and gold trading/farming/selling with WOW. The item giving and duping in Borderlands. I should have been more specific and not so general and I didn't realise this post would attract so much attention. I still strongly believe that any system where people can give loot or trade for glimmer or parts would be bad idea. But if done right, a trade system would be great. SECOND EDIT: a lot of people are complaining about the "terrible loot system", just FYI they DID just say they're patching tha said system. We have to see the changes that come out of it. Also the game hasn't even been out for three weeks!!!!!! To me it's expected in a game like this that you have to play for ages to get good loot. 3 weeks is nothing.

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  • Trade system please, I can't count how many times I have gotten something that was potentially an upgrade for someone I regularly play with or something like a starship design i dont particularly like but my friend does. though I think that it shouldnt be just open trading, but perhaps items you get have a certain amount of time they can be traded to someone you were in a group with when the item was obtained and then done through the mail. however I realise that opening up any sort of trade system just invites "gold/item" sellers to the game.

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  • For -blam!-s sake trading needs to be in games like Destiny.

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  • Destiny is the best game you ever played just judging from the beta? Have you even played Borderlands? because aside from the graphics and the character customization Borderlands does everything far better than Destiny does from what we have seen so far (especially if your going by the beta). Missions, loot, characters, enemies, guns, progression etc. Almost no contest thus far. I don't think you should oppose the trading system altogether, the idea of this game is to have fun. Sure legendary loot should be bound to your account, but as for the rest it only makes sense that players should be able to trade items they don't want. Not only because it fits the setting, but because it gives players access to resources they simply couldn't get on their own (after all we are working with drop rates). All in exchange for their hard earned glimmer and unwanted weapons. The Guardians are an organisation fighting to save whats left of humanity and the ability to distribute gear among other players increases the total wealth and collective of the players. Yes glimmer farming can be a problem but lets face it there is such a lack of communication between players that spammers shouldn't be a problem.

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    • I would like a trading system. I don't care what gear people have unless i'm in the Iron Banner. I would to be able to trade my friends a warlock helmet I got or something like that. Thats just how I see it.

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    • If they installed a trade system it should only be possible through the vendors as long as you have fully upgraded your weapons or gear.

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    • TLDR

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    • What's wrong with trading? [i]Proud member of the clan causing a sensation [url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/67123219/0/0] THE GRIMGUARD[/url] .[/i]

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    • They've already said there wouldnt be a trading system dude, at least not at start. And I have faith in Bungie, part of the reason they are not implementing is they want to get a handle on how the player economy would work in this game

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    • Very convincing argument. I voted against a trade system.

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    • With the people saying there could be duping. I believe it's not even possible, due to the fact that all are characters and inventories are saved on a server i think it's not possible to dupe unless you hack into the servers. Anyone have anything to say to see how it's possible or anything love peoples opinion.

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    • I voted yes, then realised I want to earn my gear. Can I have my vote back please?

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      • Don't care.

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      • No trading loots player to player is a bad thing because players will exploit it and next think you know exotic weapons and legendary ones won't be so uncommon everyone will have them. I like it how it is now with beta, its a good system plus there are other ways of getting exotic weapons such as getting strange coins and using the strange coins to talk to the black market guy at the tower. Also if you get a high enough cryptarch level you will get exotic weapons.

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        • Frankly, I don't care, as long as Bungie spends its time on worth-while projects (the ability to make your character dance doesn't really seem like one of those).

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        • Trade system will defeat the purpose of earning your loot.

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          • We need more no votes

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            • Numbers don't lie check the scoreboard.

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            • [quote]Destiny is without a doubt the best game I've ever played, you guys have nailed it.[/quote] And to think...you only played a beta, possibly an alpha. le sigh. I feel your pain bro. I've been trying to play other FPS, but it feels almost like im cheating on a GF that went to another state to visit family for a month.

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              • I do and don't want a trade system. Trade gear and weapons no. Trade goods. Maybe. Sometimes you just have the people that farm things and then the person that gets home late from having a career can't find some things. And it gets frustrating. But yea as far as gear and the things that really matter like weapons and such yea I don't think you should be able to trade those things. But as far as normal goods. That's a maybe for me. Idk

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                • lets hope this doesn't turn into a hat fortress 2 thing

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                • Trade system brings nothing but stupid problems dooping guns and armor ruins that game

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                • I am perfectly happy without a trade system. That being said, if one was to be implemented I would like to see it be something like anything that dropped during your session with others would be tradeable with JUST them for a period of time, say 1 or 2 hours. So if you did a Strike and someone got something they really didn't need say a new gun and that would be a great upgrade for you, and you got a drop that didn't do you any good -- you could swap or be given the new gun. You were there for the adventure, you helped out... Of course this may not work if high level friends take your lower level char through so you're just sitting on stuff. But that's the only fair trade system I see.

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                  • I'm not sure of the terms used for all the equipment rarities but I'm sure most of you will understand what I mean. Anything that's blue colored ie. Rare item level and below could be made available to trade. Anything better would be bind on pickup. Could even go as far as having rare and above strike and raid drops be strictly BoP but rare world drops could be bind on equip. It would keep the world from being flooded with rare items being traded after they are no longer useful. A trade system without a binding system cheapens the reward of a loot system.

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                  • Ha Funny, there already putting a trade system in a couple months after launch and it will be limited so it is fair and won't be used for spamming exotics and legendary a so don't worry

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                    • I like working for loot. Don't want stuff handed out or being sold. Either way though, I will enjoy the game.

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                    • Personally I'd like a trading system. There were several times throughout the beta me and my friends found guns that we didn't like but somebody else in our group could use, but because we couldn't trade it over it just ended up being recycled into glimmer which seems like kind of a waste. At the end of the day its not a huge deal but something that would be nice to have.

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