I really don't see what the issue here is. In this thread you're arguing that kids can kill themselves with guns, and it's a common thing. Yes, I agree, but that only happens because of poor parenting and storage of their weapons. Not one of those situations did a child open up a safe, take out a gun, load it, and shoot themselves. If he were to be arguing that an open and loaded gun be stored in the child's room then you'd be merited calling him 'one of the worst people out there' and an idiot. However he wasn't. Actually he's quite the opposite of that. Have no idea where you're coming from or going with this.