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4/26/2013 5:48:31 PM
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Now, this is something that I would like to hopefully clear...

When ever I see a topic about religion pop up here, I sometimes see a very specific remark about how our faith is spread. Some people say that we shove it down other peoples throats like some mad people. Also I see people say that remark about passing it on to my children. They have said things like it should be their choice and that doing things like that is not right... Well, allow me to say this. Why would I not pass on something that I view is beneficial and important to my children? Why would I not want him/her to have the life that I have? I would want what is best for them. Now, since I see a lot of atheists in here and they're the primary source of this. When it comes down to your children and you having the views that you have now, what if your children chose to believe? Would you also not try and bring them up in the way that you want them too? It goes both ways here, both groups want what is best for them and it is not up to the other person to decide that. Would you be supportive of his/her decision? Or would you have not even introduced them to that life at all in the first place?

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  • [quote]Why would I not pass on something that I view is beneficial and important to my children?[/quote] Whether or not it is beneficial is questionable.

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  • Edited by Wyldfyre: 4/26/2013 6:17:36 PM
    [quote]Why would I not pass on something that I view is beneficial and important to my children? Why would I not want him/her to have the life that I have?[/quote]Because it's selfish. Who's to say that they wouldn't get more out of life being atheist or a different religion? Just because it worked for you, doesn't mean it'll work for your offspring. My ex absolutely [i]hates[/i] (not even a strong enough word) his parents for imposing religion on him his whole life. Similar cases in which the child despises the parents for indoctrinating them with religious ideologies are far, far more common than the opposite of someone picking up religion in a primarily atheist family. In my opinion, the best you can do is say "well, this is what I believe, but it's up to you to decide what you believe". Just as you would any other person. To answer the OP, I neither want nor intend to have children. Purely for the sake of hypotheticals, I actually would be fairly disappointed if my child wanted to become religious, just like I was with my brother. Religion has caused far more harm and stress in my life than good, and I'd want them to be well aware of that. Of course, I can't really stop them but it would be painful to me seeing them grow up like that.

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    • OP, I do understand your point and it's an excellent one in some cases. Politics would be a good example, as there is no "one right party". But this is different. With this we have to ask ourselves the questions: "Do I have the right to impose anything on anyone?" and "How can we be truly sure?" Those are the two questions that trouble me the most when it comes to life and whether it has meaning or not. I have yet to been able to make a definitive statement in these during my (yet) brief journey on this planet. But here's what I've got so far. Do we have the right impose knowledge on others? There's no definitive answer to this. But in the case of ones view on the world I say we have the right, if not the duty, to correct possible errors. This is based purely on utilitarianism: If someone thinks it's their duty to stone people to death or blowing them up for some irrational reason, it's bad for everyone. Because of this, I say we most do everything in our power to "get people thinking straight". But after this, another question follows. How can we really be sure we're right? The truth is that we can't. We'll just have to be able to live with the uncertainty and go for the best option. If you haven't figured it out by know, I'm an atheist and I obviously think it's the "correct" position. And here comes the why. But briefly before that I must note that the only way for us to try to figure out what seems to be the best explanation for life and all it's complexity, we need to come up with a rational solution. It's to only way we can have a rational discussion about it. And this is where religions fail. They rely on blind faith. Something that can never be tested in a rational manner. Lack of divine entities is the only explanation supported by science and the simplest one that fits our observations of the world. We have seen no actual proof supporting a divine being so the only rational position to take is that there isn't one. And because of these things, I think that we have the right to spread atheism whereas religion shouldn't spread it's messages.

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    • I've been in arguments with some of you about me "letting my child make up his own mind" when it comes to my raising him atheist. It goes both ways bro

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      • Like a Bisexual, it goes both ways, and the people who say otherwise are lying to themselves.

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