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2/7/2013 5:17:12 PM
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I need some help (Legal help)

[quote]"If you go into a baker's to buy a bun and they give you the wrong change and you walk away knowing you have been given more change than you handed over in the first place, that's theft," Sara Ludlam, an intellectual property expert at Lupton, Fawcett, Lee & Priestley told the BBC. "So, arguably if you go into this game knowing you are supposed to be paying for these weapons and you notice a glitch allows you to accumulate them without paying, that's theft as well.[/quote] Right this bottom bit about buying a gun in game confuses me. In Dead Space 3 you can buy a gun that is already in the game, so would the example given in this article really make sense? Think about it you can do 1 of 3 things. 1. Buy the gun 2. Find the gun 3. Cheat to get the gun early Now the example says cheating to get that gun "early" is theft because you don't pay for it yet it is in the game anyway and can be added to the players arsenal for free. So how can it be theft??

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  • Edited by Jessica: 2/7/2013 7:43:45 PM
    -blam!-ing hell, no surprise the woman's an "intellectual property" expert: she has no idea what she's talking about. to quote [quote] 1.-(1) A person is guilty of theft, if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it; and "thief" and "steal" shall be construed accordingly. (2) It is immaterial whether the appropriation is made with a view to gain, or is made for the thief’s own benefit.[/quote]-[i]Theft Act 1968[/i] So, while entirely correct that leaving with too much change is technically theft, she's utterly incorrect that dishonest appropriation of digital goods is theft because the "owner" is not "permanently deprived" of anything, particularly as one can gain the item without handing over anything of value.

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    • Theft? No, no, no. The gun was a free demo that you were able to acquire, only for them to come back and say that this was the intent all along, even though no one ever said it that way and had it as DLC,....... Wait, I'm thinking of something else.

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    • Edited by Omega Travis: 2/7/2013 7:46:43 PM
      [b]Objection![/b] This is EA we are talking about. No one [u]should[/u] give them their entitled money.

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    • It sounds like buying the gun only gives you early access. The player will get it eventually, with enough time.

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    • Baker's fault for giving you more change than you're suppose to have. It's EA's fault for publishing a game that has these exploits. I have never heard of it being against the law to walk out of a store with the incorrect change. A) It's not your fault they messed up. B) Claim ignorance if it comes down to it.

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    • Edited by The Dark Hadou: 2/7/2013 6:10:50 PM
      If you are using glitches to access the weapon early it could be seen as "theft" as you are depriving the creator of money that they have stated as the fair value for using that weapon early. Whether the creator making you pay to get it early is good practice is another matter.

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    • YOLO

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    • lolEA

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