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5/17/2024 7:29:34 AM
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This game is very anti new player
I came back to destiny after about a year. hopped into pvp. Big nope, everyone else felt like pvp gods using handcannons or pulses. Then I was like ok let's try some pve. Hopped into the mission for the strand exotic bow, got absolutely torn apart. But I kept going and got to the boss room. As soon as I stepped in I died in maybe 2 to 3 seconds. The only way I was able to beat it was using my super, die, rinse and repeat until it was dead. Then i found out that i need to run it again at a higher difficulty and i was like hell no. When did parts of this game become nearly impossible for solo casual players, and I have no intention of spending hundreds if not thousands of hours into this game to git gud. And looking at this forum, a lot of you people are incredibly toxic. So go rip me apart in the comments idgaf. This game is -blam!-
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11 RepliesThis game is anti-player period. I’ve never experienced a game where the devs legit hate their community.
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2 RepliesNot just this game Bud. Many others too. The rise of the streamer and their sheep has led to games companies believing that they are average gamers, and cater the difficulty to suit them. Created two tier’s of gamers right now. Those who just want to turn on a game and have a blast, and those who think everything has to be hard and earned only if you are “good” enough. If you are one of the former then find another game you enjoy, its not worth the aggro.
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4 RepliesTo be fair to bungie they are trying.. Some of the most recent changes are very nice actually Like how you gain your subclass trees What I'd like to see them do isn't very realistic so I'm just happy to see anything for new players My sister couldn't really get into the game and I started with the D1 beta so honestly I have no idea how to get her hooked or even if I want to What I think really got me back then was the idea that this world is lived in and we had missions and cutscenes to showcase and enforce that We really need new starts and I mean multiple Like one you spawn in just outside the city limits and you and your ghost hitch a ride on a vanguard armory shipment via train only to have to defend it until you finally make it to the city Or one where you spawn on the moon in your old space suit trying to find a ship to get to earth and you find one deep inside the pit barely escaping Or one where the drifter finds you out in the middle of nowhere just after the ghost he was talking to revives you for the first time and you have a nice chat before you both do a mission and get back to the tower Or one where you spawn in for the first time and find humans and fallen hiding and cold you use your solar to light the fire next to them and catch then food to eat and glimmer to eat and then you lead them safely to the last city and get them to run and reach it as you fight off a boss and just before he can kill you another guardian shows up with thunder lord All of these are randomly picked for your character as you start I'd also love to see different ghost voices tho idk if that's possible atleast 3 of them again random so your start and your ghost feels like it's yours even the shell is random Maybe also having secret starts for what ever race you pick like if your an exo you wake up outside your cryo pod on the ice moon and follow flash back memories of when you were a human to reach the complex and you find a ghost that follows you.. This is implied that you become a guardian without needing to die first because your an exo As for awoken you spawn as one of the old slayed queens guard in the reef even having the queen recognize you if you meet for the first time but you have to find and build a ship back up to find your way to earth They really could do any of these but I'd love to see all of them they are straight forward missions but very theme focused Story wise when your guardian awakens matters as you are a new player
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1 ReplyYeah. Same exact thing for me. That boss room sucked being Solo. Then i find out you gotta do it several more times and im like nah that bow can sit in the vault. The outbreak mission sounds same Luckily ive already got it
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PVP just takes time, I'm still not "good" per se in terms of like Trials flawless & all of that but where I am now vs when I started isnt even comparable. You just have to be prepared to eat a ton of s*** along the way to being decent lol. I probably played Rumble 25 times in a row before I even got one kill then I tried Control & started having a little success then build from there. Same way with PVE, I goofed around forever before I even tried anything remotely difficult because I didnt think I would be able to do it. Never tried any builds the first couple of years either but I ended up watching some build videos one day & then through trial & error I got through my first dungeon solo, it wasnt pretty though. It took me a good minute to solo that Starcrossed mission youre talking about on normal & once I did I didnt think I would ever be able to solo it on legend but watched a few build videos on that, gave it a try, & finally got through it. Getting into it is a rough process though, I definitely agree with that.
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1 ReplyIt's because PVP is garbage lol But anyway if what you want is fast braindead anyone-can-do-it call of duty action this game ain't that game. Don't play solo, go find a fireteam.
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1 ReplyGo to see Shaxx in the hall of whatever it's called, get a whole set of 1810 gear, then go see Ikora for a new light package. Then, still get your -blam!- whopped by a regular story mission that is for some reason part of the seasonal story. The state of the game is terrible.
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Putting starcrossed in as a mid season story requirement was dumb. I don’t think they’ve done that with any other exotic missions.
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I hear you. I played d1 almost every day and quit when d2 launched. Came back for a week here or there but that's about it. Now I've been focusing in d2 more or less this whole season and it's been tough at first at least. But... just... have to grind... thinks get easier the more you play. Not the most fun experience for most players I bet.
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2 RepliesThe "New Light" experience is the worst part of this game and it is so neglected that it is a wonder how this game has any new players at all. The story is in shambles and there is barely any explanation of how anything works, newbies getting tossed to the wolves and expected to tackle the new "improved" difficulty content with no clue on how exotic to ability synergies even work. I could not reasonably recommend this game to anyone, even though I genuinely enjoy it, which is a terrible feeling. Bungie really needs to work on this aspect far more than they realize, as it seems to be the lowest priority on their radar.
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Edited by Zoidberg: 5/18/2024 4:28:56 AMI absolutely agree with this. The game has taken a very negative turn towards hardcore only. As one of the players capable of that mission pretty easily. I don't play them more than once for rewards. Don't understand it either. Like those exotics suck, why gate keep them?
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Since Lightfall. I started playing when Witch Queen dropped, and it was a different game back then. So much fun to be had. Then they decided to "bring the challenge back" with Lightfall. The challenge did come back, but half the playerbase left lmao This game is AWFUL now compared to the WQ year. If I started playing during LF, I wouldn't be heree rn. I will see what is TFS like, then maybe buy it or wait for sale and peace out, if they keep riding the challenge is back train.
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That’s just the state of the game industry as whole these days. Live service games everywhere rotate content in and out creating a sense of “what’s going on” and fomo for new players which in turn makes it hard to get interested playing. Games being to big and not clearly teaching players what to do or how to do it due having so much to keep track of. I like having a lot to do and getting thrown into the fire as much as anyone else but only after I’ve had time to learn stuff. Games needing to be treated like a full time job to get any enjoyment or fun out of them. (This one is subjective so take with a grain of salt) the need to feel like you have to sweat in games rather than having fun (I know some people live to sweat in games but i take the side of games should be fun) sbmm in every multiplayer game and the rise in difficult content has been a huge pain point in games for me recently. Making it hard for me to pick up new games these days. I’ve had many of my friends ask me if destiny 2 is worth getting into. I tell them only if you like sweating every game, have no life, abd have a crap ton of money due the dlc prices and microtransactions.
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Pvp is anti veteran/skill
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yep, a coworker download it-who games-i never even got to play a match with him cause he quit after 2 weeks
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2 RepliesGonna shoot ya straight. If you ain't streaming Destiny on Twitch..... This game isn't being made for you.
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It really is anti-new light, though. Maybe you could get carried. That's about it.
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Edited by ForeverLaxx: 5/18/2024 2:25:02 AMI agree with your declaration that this game isn't friendly to new players. I disagree with your justifications as to why. There's a ton wrong with the game, especially for a New Light/returning player, but everything you laid out as your reasoning is something a new player isn't expected to reasonably tackle. Even a returning player coming back after a year or more of changes is going to have issues doing what you did, and perhaps the only fault of the game in this regard is that it doesn't do a good job of directing new/returning players to more appropriate areas of the game. If you had said that there was no real indication that content wasn't meant to be ran before earlier, easier content is done first I'd agree with you. Destiny is terrible at directing players on where to go if you haven't been playing every week since release. But you didn't. Instead you ranted about how you're 80 points under level and how the players are all toxic, so I can't abide this bad faith message. So many legitimate reasons to have major problems with this game and you choose the worst way to express and justify it. I award you no points.
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Maybe because you haven't played in a while and are doing new content with no new weapons?? I mean come on use your brain a bit yeah the game isn't new player friendly too much but be fr
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2 RepliesProblem is 95% percent of the weapons are not endgame viable. U need some very specific exotics / legendaries that would help you in harder missions. Google it you will find out everything. For example, polaris lance is good this season, next season probably some other exotics would work very well.
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1 ReplyI died in like 10 seconds my first zero hour. I soloed it finally yesterday. After like 19 deaths, maybe less. Never give up. Never surrender no matter how badly you get beat.
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15 RepliesEdited by HellfireEclipse: 5/17/2024 3:30:06 PMCrucible is horrid. Exotics locked behind lost sectors. Raids are impossible now with LFG. Half the story is missing. Seasonal content cut. Yeah im just waiting for D3 at this point.
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1 ReplyThe problem is that bungie are all egalitarian idiots who think they know what's best for the masses. Bungle. They don't deserve your wallet. They deserve the peoples most harsh and just criticism.
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4 RepliesAnd for those needing help with PvE endgame content, advice or guidance on how to approach and overcome challenges - there is a Jonty28 for that.
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1 ReplyBungie is not good at PvP but PVE is very good.
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Edited by Obi-Juan: 5/18/2024 8:07:34 PMYou say this like other PvP games aren't? I fail to think of 1 PvP shooter where you don't hop on after a long break and get stomped until you warm up to the new changes. Literally just play Onslaught and you have more than enough good PvP weapons to get by
