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Edited by Cultmeister:
3/11/2024 12:28:07 PM
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Is it ever acceptable to put an ‘and’ immediately after a comma?
The correct answer is yes and I will die on this hill.
If you have a particularly long sentence you sometimes need to break it up with commas to help the pacing, and adding a comma before an ‘and’ provides an alternative softer form of the spacing normally provided by a semicolon. It also helps separate certain ‘and’s if you have a few close together in the sentence, like when you want to make a list and then make a follow-up point. “Today I ate this, that, this’n, that’n, thus’n and thi’us’n, and in my opinion this’n is the best.”
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Isn't that the oxford comma? I like food, games, and lists.
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8 RepliesEdited by Upperclass Bum: 3/14/2024 7:57:36 AMIt is, but I hate it, and furthermore semicolons are dumb. The oxford comma is as pretentious as its name
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I saw a post a little while ago on Twitter with two different sentences. The first was; [quote]We made rhinoceri, Washington, and Lincoln.[/quote] This quote clearly shows the person made three things: Rhinoceri, Washington, and Lincoln. The second sentence was; [quote]We made rhinoceri, Washington and Lincoln.[/quote] This one is not as clear, and could also mean they made rhinoceri named Washington & Lincoln. Oxford commas are important.
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10 RepliesEdited by Altmith: 3/11/2024 2:17:26 PMIt is occasionally acceptable, but not for the reasons you listed. Poetry and scripts can play with usage, but commas in general writing follow rules. You also seem to have proper use for semicolons completely mistaken. You can use a comma immediately after an “and” when there is a nonrestrictive clause or phrase immediately after the “and”. However, this is generally an acceptable time to omit the first comma. The most common and easily understood examples are parentheticals. These are phrases that can be moved freely around the sentence without influencing meaning. For example, you can insert the phrase “as a guiding principle” just about anywhere in the previous sentence without the meaning changing. As a general rule use semicolons between two independent clauses when there is not a coordinating conjunction. However, grammar follows popular usage. So if you want to change the rules you can. You just have to keep using them wrong and get a bunch of others to use them wrong too. It’s the one cool trick grammarians don’t want you to know.
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1 Reply[quote]The correct answer is yes and I will die on this hill.[/quote] I'm with you, brother! "They can take our lives, but they'll never take our comma!"
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You have to when separating two independent clauses with a conjunction, such as “and.” It is basic grammar.
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Well the Oxford comma will forever be the king
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Yes, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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8 RepliesThat’s fine. Heck you can start a sentence with ‘and’.
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I don't know any reason why it shouldn't be, especially if it goes on to break the sentence into another descriptive part of the same topic. "Today I went to the store, and then returned home." "Today I went to the store. Then I returned home." Both work and are entirely understandable.
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Yes, and...?
