You’re in a clan with 90 other people Are you sure you can’t ask the more ‘hardcore’ folks in your clan to join a fire team & run master vox? Communication helps Pointless being part of a clan if you don’t/can’t ask for direct help & forge fireteams

People have stopped playing. This season was dreadful once past the initial campaign.

Oh I know (Even the Throne World location is desperately in need of activities - but just like Europa, it’s empty!) I didn’t mind PsiOps (Legend was challenging - trying flawless fire team on legend was frankly ridiculous!) Some of the seasonal weapons are great, but it was still too much nonsense (risen umbra energy etc) Luckily I’ve a clan that helps & regularly logs in

[quote]Oh I know (Even the Throne World location is desperately in need of activities - but just like Europa, it’s empty!) I didn’t mind PsiOps (Legend was challenging - trying flawless fire team on legend was frankly ridiculous!) Some of the seasonal weapons are great, but it was still too much nonsense (risen umbra energy etc) Luckily I’ve a clan that helps & regularly logs in[/quote] There is no flawless fireteam challenge. It's just for individual players. Others can die in your fireteam and if you don't you still get the flawless challenge done.

Ah ok Just misread it In Season if the Risen Triumphs There’s a normal difficulty “full fireteam” flawless challenge (Operation Blinding Light) & a legend difficulty flawless challenge (Flawless PsiOps Legend) I’m really surprised that Bungie didn’t put in a version of the latter - with a full fireteam flawless For a really well earned & super rare emblem/shader

[quote]Ah ok Just misread it In Season if the Risen Triumphs There’s a normal “full fireteam” flawless challenge (Operation Blinding Light) & a legend difficulty flawless challenge (Flawless PsiOps Challenge)[/quote] I just had the legend version seasonal challenge in mind with what you said because of about 50 attempts, with at least 40 of those being solo runs about 4 or so weeks ago when it was on the moon. I eventually got it on what was going to be my last try that week. Then.....come last week on the cosmodrome map I ran it again with the friends I initially tried with and said if anyone dies past half way we will just finish it instead of restarting to get some loot and to see if it's like some of the other flawless triumphs like dungeons doesn't specify or it didn't previously that it's the whole fireteam that has to go flawless. 1 friend survived the run and got the seasonal challenge for flawless legendary run, next run the other friend got it. I just assumed the legend version requiring a flawless run for the challenge was like dungeon flawless triumphs.

Like most clans it’s probably full of dormant accounts that haven’t played in months. In my experience, even when a lot of players were active, most of the clans I’ve been in were cliquey with small groups that played together but didn’t tend to help many others. Just my experience.