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Edited by Helios 2117: 8/24/2021 2:27:12 PM
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The 'Witch Queen' will be Mara Sov, not Savathun #SurvivetheTruth

I know, I know - this is a deviation from the current thinking. However, if you want to entertain a more radical, potentially gut-wrenching scenario - think about it: Savathun is alien to us, [i]an alien[/i]. Savathun is an excellent antagonist, easy to hate, secretly maneuvering in the shadows, even taking the guise of those we've grown to know (Osiris). BUT - as a narrative, it's also a bit flat. Cool in many ways, but lacking some emotion. Consider an alternative. Mara Sov is someone we know, someone we've worked for, rooted for, and we've been involved in the family drama. She's set up as a potential savior - someone who intends to return to the dreaming city, knowing Savathun will likely be waiting. Having her emerge in some way as the Witch Queen, or become the Witch Queen, would be a tragic flip, a far more emotional journey for us than the fight against Savathun, perhaps. "Survive the Truth" - this tagline could be that we simply have to endure all of Savuthun's manipulations finally coming to light. But what if, at the end, we find that Savathun wasn't the Witch Queen we imagined - what if someone else had fallen to the darkness long before, or becomes something we didn't think possible? What sort of truth would [i]really[/i] be difficult to survive - someone like Mara Sov being revealed as the Witch Queen? How sad would it be for Uldren to realize he would have to stop his sister? For us to have to fight our beloved Queen of the Reef? Do we know that Mara Sov hasn't been corrupted in some way by the Darkness? She is a being that seems to dance between light and dark - that space in between. Her command of Riven, her survival through a throne world.... Obviously I'm not an expert on the lore, but I can't help but have this suspicion that Bungie has a trick up it's sleeve, and two, that Mara Sov is destined for a more tragic fate in the Witch Queen narrative. I know it's bonkers and suuuuuper unlikely, but I just had to scratch the itch. Is it too crazy to think that Mara Sov eventually becomes a tragic villain? A foil to her brothers arc of redemption? Curious to know what the community might think of this idea, so just throwing it it out there :) Edit 1: Huge thanks to the community! If you're interested in some of the original threads/posts exploring this idea and related ones check out[url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/9wxrl3/mara_sov_and_savathun_connection/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body] this reddit post[/url], [url=https://www.bungie.net/en-US/Forums/Post/162290392?sort=0&page=0&path=1] this old forum post[/url], and this [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/233586514?sort=0&page=0]post[/url] (thanks to @inShane2k11 for the research). I lean a bit more toward the idea that Mara Sov [i]is not[/i] Savathun (super interesting theory though), but that Mara Sov may take on a similar role, claim the title, or even replace Savathun in some capacity, [i]or[/i] is manipulating events on a far grander scale than we thought possible. 😬 Edit 2: This whole conversation has really got me digging for more. So I wanted to drop in a few great resources from the legendary MyNameisByf: 1) The history of Mara Sov and her potential return after her apparent death in the Taken King from D1 (June 2018) [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cnmybzt63Q]here.[/url] 2) Mara’s appearance in the Queens Court of the Dreaming City during D2: Forsaken (November 2018) [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuFIHfVtx2k]here.[/url] 3) The lore behind Savathun (July 2020) [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qdY0cTfHUg]here.[/url] Let me know what else might be out there related to this theory or others like it! Edit 3: Something really sus about the current Witch Queen and a potential one in this tweet from Bungie... [url=https://twitter.com/DestinyTheGame/status/1428718461543387141/photo/1] the Queen returns, and is that Osirithun?![/url] Edit 4: Just putting it out there - this conversation has been a ton of fun. I sincerely appreciate all of you in the community who join this conversation, enjoy the lore, and will occasionally entertain a little wild speculation :) Cheers all.

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  • 'The Truth' is likely something big to do with the Light and the Darkness. If the leaks are to be believed, Savathun is going to be making a bunch of hive guardians to fill her ranks with and a minor character for the expansion is the Darkness. The very notion that this could be possible would surely be part of some big revelation. God I hope not though because light wielding hive sounds a bit dumb to me when the hives design is so awesome and we have a chance to go all in on it. Unfortunately, the more lore I read of Savathun having some plans for the light, the more likely it looks.

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