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1/28/2019 4:36:17 PM
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Bungie backed themselves into the corner with Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten. They created the overpowered pinnacle weapon that everyone wants but only great players can obtain. Do they need an overpowered perk to wreck in Crucible? No. Do they care that it makes them unbeatable? No.
There is no way Bungie can balance this weapon without pissing off their most dedicated Crucible players. But these weapons along with Precision frame Shotguns have ruined Crucible.
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"Unbeatable" You do realize that most people dropping 50+ defeats are usually not using LH or NF right? Ever wonder why that is? Lunas is very strong, the best 1v1 primary under 25m hands down. But outside of that range, or for teamshot it is outclassed by many other options. I personally average more kills per game when using Ace+long walk than when I'm using luna+ bite of the fox. And finally, if TLW is good then it will be an option for the masses to compete with luna under 25m.. (if tlw has 150rpm damage and 225rpm actual like in D1 it will 3 tap faster than luna, and 4 tap faster as well)
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[quote]You do realize that most people dropping 50+ defeats are usually not using LH or NF right? Ever wonder why that is?[/quote] So you have access to match statistics for every player? Sure there are plenty of good options that great players can use to drop 40 or 50 kills. Do they? Maybe. But if they do it never seems to be in any of my matches.
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I have tons of friends who semi consistently drop 50 bombs (that dont use luna for high kill games) and I manage alot more 40+ games when running Ace over luna. Luna is a 1v1 monster and dominates the ranges commonly seen in rumble or comp. But in QP, when going for high kill games, the poor ammo efficiency of luna combined with its poor peek-shot ability and low range make it a less optimal choice. Generally using luna requires you to expose yourself differently (in a way that can be punished very easily in QP) Just my opinion.. but if I was going for 50+ defeats I wouldn't use luna except on a few maps.
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Max range is 34m. 36m for low resilience Guardians. After that it's a reliable 4 tap. Same as the popular trust hand canon. TLW will not 3 tap unless it's got some hidden perk. Even then it'll have worse range
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Luna is pretty worthless past 30m. The drop in AA alone makes it weak at those ranges, and it is only a consistent 4 tap if you activate magnificent howl.. and again... with the AA drop... is difficult. At 32+m trust is better by a bit. A bygones or a blast furnace however, will absolutely obliterate a luna at those ranges. Under 20m luna gets destroyed by fusions... and some sidearms.. Under 15m it gets worked by shotguns.. So really it just dominates from 20-30m
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[quote]Bungie backed themselves into the corner with Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten. They created the overpowered pinnacle weapon that everyone wants but only great players can obtain. Do they need an overpowered perk to wreck in Crucible? No. Do they care that it makes them unbeatable? No. There is no way Bungie can balance this weapon without pissing off their most dedicated Crucible players. But these weapons along with Precision frame Shotguns have ruined Crucible.[/quote] This. It’s not a bash on the dedicated players good enough to get them. I have nothing but respect for skilled and the dedication of players. What I do care about is balance and these weapons are not that. They break the mold of that archetype and an already strong crucible weapon type.
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Yeah, I'm not trying to take anything away from players that earned pinnacle weapons. But Crucible has become a match between the haves and the have nots. The consequences of that reality are sinking in for a lot of players now that Crucible numbers are settling and only the diehards remain.
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[quote]Yeah, I'm not trying to take anything away from players that earned pinnacle weapons. But Crucible has become a match between the haves and the have nots. The consequences of that reality are sinking in for a lot of players now that Crucible numbers are settling and only the diehards remain.[/quote] This ^^^
