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Edited by A_dmg04: 11/7/2018 4:15:21 AM
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I have been contacted by my Internet service provider after I got DoSed yesterday, how long will cheater problem be swept under the rug by Bungie?

We have been DoSed numerous times in the Crucible, I used to record and report every DoS but I have stopped doing that when I saw that no bans were ever issued even months after numerous reports with video proofs. Same with rapid-fire glitch macros cheaters (like [redacted]), [redacted] was banned by hand after popular Destiny YouTuber released two videos about him. If [redacted] was banned then we know that what he was doing is considered bannable offense by Bungie. But there is a cheater just like [redacted] in my connection who was doing it for over a year now without any ban. We match this cheater every day and we report him every day. That is why I can say with 100% certainty that in-game reports don't work, web form reports with video proofs and PGCR links don't work. Some time ago I have created a thread here about cheater problem, in two days it had over 200 up votes, filled with joy that maybe now something will be done, I have tweeted it to every Bungie developer I knew, just shortly after I did that, my thread was deleted! Here is the full story that wrote in response to that: https://telegra.ph/How-Bungies-forum-rules-have-led-to-game-breaking-exploit-being-in-two-games-for-3-years-and-counting-05-03 tl;dr: Bungie actively sweeps these issues under the rug for way, way too long. This is criminal. When I told about how Bungie handles cheaters to my ISP they were lost for words. I just don't how can Bungie be so incompetent at handling this issue, yet so good at hiding it. I love my ISP: they provide cheap, fast, reliable Internet with IPv6 support, home router with open source firmware, open NAT without double NAT, they are simply the best. But now I have to be on their bad side because of Bungie unbelievable, inconceivable, incomprehensible incompetence. My ISP told me that it was 12gb attack from a single IP address. Here is PCGR of yestertday's DoS: [links redacted] Look at that, a 4-stack of recoveries. Just let that sink in, Bungie is so incompetent that people can reliably DoS their way to 5500 without any account ban. Let. That. Sink. In. After DoS attack we logged back in and the game tried to reconnect us back, but as always it didn't work. It never worked even one time. Why was this feature added to the game if does not work at all? Level of incompetence from Bungie's security team is simply astonishing. It is insane that they could sweep this under the rug for so long and ignore the issue. After 5 000+ hours of D1 and D2 I hold opinion that people play Destiny because of reward system and they are forced to endure horrible balance, horrible PvP and cheaters who don't get banned. I think that Destiny 2, with the way that Bungie threats it, can be classified as psychological violence. Because we really need mental help after this incredible injustice that have to witness on daily basis. I know that I could easily inflict real act of violence if a member of Bungie security team were standing in front of me. After everything that me and my team had to endure in this horrible, horrible game [spoiler]when you have an ult attack in-game that can be countered only by jumping off the map your game should be considered horrible[/spoiler] that we keep coming back to because of the rewards. I get that it's hard to detect and ban all kinds of private cheats on PC, but I'm talking about PS4 and Xbox One console versions of Destiny 2. Consoles are secure, closed down platforms, where only couple forms of cheating exist: connection manipulation, DoS attacks and macros. It is simply incomprehensible that game as a Service, game that can be considered platform all in itself, cannot deal with this. A good developer would have disabled any competitive playlist until these issues are resolved, but Bungie just rolls with it and sweeps everything under the rug. I'm posting this again with Ninja edit, because previous post was silently REMOVED FROM INDEXATION so no one could find it or post there, but it would still accessible via direct link. They still actively sweeping it under a rug, this is crazy! Check it out yourself, here is the link to the old thread: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/249494026 Looks okay, right? But can you find it or post there?

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  • And still no bungo reply. Useless company. This should by enough to prove that they don't give 2 shits about us

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  • DDoS is a federal crime, get authorities involved if you have legit records.

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  • Took over 600+ upvotes, but you finally got a response from Bungie. Guess they finally felt that they could no longer just ignore it and hope it just went away. It was the typical 'cookie cutter' response though so I would not put a lot of stock into it.

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  • Most cheats/hacks can be solved by inputting dedicated servers. Unfortunately, that cost money which they are obviously not willing to put forth. I wish there was a way we could Beta test dedicated servers just to see the difference. It would help with lag, matchmaking, among other problems in PVP

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  • I think game companies should be stoped by law from using p2p since it’s an internet security risk.

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  • Law suit, it's the only way. Their ToS means nothing when they don't uphold what's a responsibility they should be assuming. I'm working on one myself for the same issue.

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    • That is why, amongst a long list of issues why I haven't even bought the annual pass. It's either they get there shit together (which they won't) or I don't invest another dime into this game. I'm at the point right now where I'm more than willing to switch to a different game. Honestly I wonder why I continuously log into d2 even knowing how done I am with everything

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    • If Bungie ignores cheaters, I have One Question: How can I cheat? Might as well if I'm not going to get in trouble for it. Please give me a guide on how to do it, cheers . . [spoiler]I'm joking, calm down. [/spoiler]

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      • i'm just sorry i paid for the annual pass

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        • Why are bungie not replying to this?

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          • I got DDosed aswell in Trials. And there was nothing I could do about it.

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          • It's unbileiveable that bungie doesn't sort out these issues... Ddos attacks are illegal and cause more devastation than macros or simple game losses, the fact that people feel incentivised to cheat to win is horrible... [spoiler]in the wise words of cammy;disgusting![/spoiler]

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          • The attack came from a stress test service. There’s no way for Bungie to trace which member of the fire team ordered the attack. But there is a way for your service provider to trace the stress test service and have them black listed.

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          • I don't understand why bungie plays ignorant about this stuff. Why not be open and honest with us. Is it too hard to stop the cheating? I don't know why they don't do dedicated servers and they won't tell us. They don't respond to posts like this and that only makes it all worse.

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          • Bump

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          • Bump for Bungie

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          • Ok let say that i have never been dos in pvp but have seen lag switching and yea i been disconnected just thought it was me . That said i do think Bungie should reply to this non sense going on but you know they won't. Now for what i understand is things like this should be brought to sony and microsoft as it could damage a ps4 or xbox which they would have to repair if still on warranty. Again i not know crap about all this just a thought is all.On a side note what ever happened to the days of fun gameing talking trash and laughing having fun

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          • Never once has a raid team member DDoS’d me.

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          • Shame on you bungie. They said they would stop this. More and more LIES

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          • bump waiting for dev reply

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          • It's really sad to see how little they pay care. All the talk about how they're 'listening' to our feedback and everything, but don't even take the time to give someone with a legit post about cheating a generic response. One of the most upvoted posts i have seen and still absolutely nothing. Such a shame.

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          • Preach on........ Don’t say a cheaters name or Bungie will ban you, sounds like give a convicted murder felon a college degree and free teeth cleaning......

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            Bump Also you should link the 1st post. [spoiler]I personally haven't played since before the first DLC came out but this shit is dumb. I agree. [/spoiler]

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          • Simply man...you already paid money...actually they doesn't care...I'm seeing this since too long. Impressive that your ISP contacted you and at the same time...bungie were sleeping. I perfectly understand...dunno how many times in d1 we've been kicked during match 8 or 9 in trials. BunZZZZZZZZie wake up

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