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Edited by A_dmg04:
11/7/2018 4:15:21 AM
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I have been contacted by my Internet service provider after I got DoSed yesterday, how long will cheater problem be swept under the rug by Bungie?
We have been DoSed numerous times in the Crucible, I used to record and report every DoS but I have stopped doing that when I saw that no bans were ever issued even months after numerous reports with video proofs.
Same with rapid-fire glitch macros cheaters (like [redacted]), [redacted] was banned by hand after popular Destiny YouTuber released two videos about him. If [redacted] was banned then we know that what he was doing is considered bannable offense by Bungie.
But there is a cheater just like [redacted] in my connection who was doing it for over a year now without any ban. We match this cheater every day and we report him every day. That is why I can say with 100% certainty that in-game reports don't work, web form reports with video proofs and PGCR links don't work.
Some time ago I have created a thread here about cheater problem, in two days it had over 200 up votes, filled with joy that maybe now something will be done, I have tweeted it to every Bungie developer I knew, just shortly after I did that, my thread was deleted!
Here is the full story that wrote in response to that: https://telegra.ph/How-Bungies-forum-rules-have-led-to-game-breaking-exploit-being-in-two-games-for-3-years-and-counting-05-03
tl;dr: Bungie actively sweeps these issues under the rug for way, way too long. This is criminal. When I told about how Bungie handles cheaters to my ISP they were lost for words. I just don't how can Bungie be so incompetent at handling this issue, yet so good at hiding it.
I love my ISP: they provide cheap, fast, reliable Internet with IPv6 support, home router with open source firmware, open NAT without double NAT, they are simply the best. But now I have to be on their bad side because of Bungie unbelievable, inconceivable, incomprehensible incompetence.
My ISP told me that it was 12gb attack from a single IP address.
Here is PCGR of yestertday's DoS:
[links redacted]
Look at that, a 4-stack of recoveries. Just let that sink in, Bungie is so incompetent that people can reliably DoS their way to 5500 without any account ban. Let. That. Sink. In.
After DoS attack we logged back in and the game tried to reconnect us back, but as always it didn't work. It never worked even one time. Why was this feature added to the game if does not work at all?
Level of incompetence from Bungie's security team is simply astonishing. It is insane that they could sweep this under the rug for so long and ignore the issue. After 5 000+ hours of D1 and D2 I hold opinion that people play Destiny because of reward system and they are forced to endure horrible balance, horrible PvP and cheaters who don't get banned. I think that Destiny 2, with the way that Bungie threats it, can be classified as psychological violence. Because we really need mental help after this incredible injustice that have to witness on daily basis. I know that I could easily inflict real act of violence if a member of Bungie security team were standing in front of me. After everything that me and my team had to endure in this horrible, horrible game [spoiler]when you have an ult attack in-game that can be countered only by jumping off the map your game should be considered horrible[/spoiler] that we keep coming back to because of the rewards. I get that it's hard to detect and ban all kinds of private cheats on PC, but I'm talking about PS4 and Xbox One console versions of Destiny 2. Consoles are secure, closed down platforms, where only couple forms of cheating exist: connection manipulation, DoS attacks and macros. It is simply incomprehensible that game as a Service, game that can be considered platform all in itself, cannot deal with this. A good developer would have disabled any competitive playlist until these issues are resolved, but Bungie just rolls with it and sweeps everything under the rug.
I'm posting this again with Ninja edit, because previous post was silently REMOVED FROM INDEXATION so no one could find it or post there, but it would still accessible via direct link.
They still actively sweeping it under a rug, this is crazy!
Check it out yourself, here is the link to the old thread: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/249494026
Looks okay, right? But can you find it or post there?
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8 RepliesContact a legal department because ddos is illegal and I'm sure action can be taken against them and possibly bungo for letting it happen. Do it for all of us and hopefully you will get satisfaction and I hope bungo get screwed legally
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2 RepliesReport it to Xbox live or Microsoft
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1 ReplyWhen this falls too far to the bottom post it again. You have my upvotes every time.
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Either ban cheaters or create private servers. The choice is yours Bungie.
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7 RepliesCould not agree more. I've been DDOS'd a bunch of times, D1 trials, D2 trials and comp.. Bungie does nothing to stop this, dedicated servers are a must and should have been added for all PvP in D2. It will be swept under the table - as it always is. Anthem is about 4 months out, finally an alternative to go to. I'll play my PvP in games specific to PvP when the times come, BLOPS?.... I will not be spending money on D3 when it's released. I've dealt with Bungie's crap for too long, i started on the PS4 side and switched to XBOX1 later, which is where I play now. Every MMO style game that makes ANY change is documented with actual NUMBERS for people to see... "We increased scout rifle damage" -- how much? numbers.... "We nerfed pulse rifles" -- how much? not the ninja-patching and not telling the player base like has been going on. Truth of the matter is that this company does not give a rat's arse unless you have something GOOD to say about the game or can promote it. Look at trials, D1 was excellent, 1 heavy spawn in 1 round, 3v3 elim.... Then D2 trials added countdown and the other crap game types that take an eternity to complete, plus you cannot swap weps to counter your opponents any more. 3v3 elim was nice because it made people think about dieing, unlike now. Give everyone shotgums that can range like a hand cannon and heavy spawns every 30s. Let's also disguise KD in KDA so people "feel better that they are not negative".. I play the game until an alternative comes up. Borderlands 3 and Anthem are looking good, just hoping they meet my expectations. If not back to PC and NOT playing Destiny.
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Edited by madgamer438: 11/8/2018 3:23:03 AM[quote]We have been DoSed numerous times in the Crucible, I used to record and report every DoS but I have stopped doing that when I saw that no bans were ever issued even months after numerous reports with video proofs. Same with rapid-fire glitch macros cheaters (like [redacted]), [redacted] was banned by hand after popular Destiny YouTuber released two videos about him. If [redacted] was banned then we know that what he was doing is considered bannable offense by Bungie. But there is a cheater just like [redacted] in my connection who was doing it for over a year now without any ban. We match this cheater every day and we report him every day. That is why I can say with 100% certainty that in-game reports don't work, web form reports with video proofs and PGCR links don't work. Some time ago I have created a thread here about cheater problem, in two days it had over 200 up votes, filled with joy that maybe now something will be done, I have tweeted it to every Bungie developer I knew, just shortly after I did that, my thread was deleted! Here is the full story that wrote in response to that: https://telegra.ph/How-Bungies-forum-rules-have-led-to-game-breaking-exploit-being-in-two-games-for-3-years-and-counting-05-03 tl;dr: Bungie actively sweeps these issues under the rug for way, way too long. This is criminal. When I told about how Bungie handles cheaters to my ISP they were lost for words. I just don't how can Bungie be so incompetent at handling this issue, yet so good at hiding it. I love my ISP: they provide cheap, fast, reliable Internet with IPv6 support, home router with open source firmware, open NAT without double NAT, they are simply the best. But now I have to be on their bad side because of Bungie unbelievable, inconceivable, incomprehensible incompetence. My ISP told me that it was 12gb attack from a single IP address. Here is PCGR of yestertday's DoS: [links redacted] Look at that, a 4-stack of recoveries. Just let that sink in, Bungie is so incompetent that people can reliably DoS their way to 5500 without any account ban. Let. That. Sink. In. After DoS attack we logged back in and the game tried to reconnect us back, but as always it didn't work. It never worked even one time. Why was this feature added to the game if does not work at all? Level of incompetence from Bungie's security team is simply astonishing. It is insane that they could sweep this under the rug for so long and ignore the issue. After 5 000+ hours of D1 and D2 I hold opinion that people play Destiny because of reward system and they are forced to endure horrible balance, horrible PvP and cheaters who don't get banned. I think that Destiny 2, with the way that Bungie threats it, can be classified as psychological violence. Because we really need mental help after this incredible injustice that have to witness on daily basis. I know that I could easily inflict real act of violence if a member of Bungie security team were standing in front of me. After everything that me and my team had to endure in this horrible, horrible game [spoiler]when you have an ult attack in-game that can be countered only by jumping off the map your game should be considered horrible[/spoiler] that we keep coming back to because of the rewards. I get that it's hard to detect and ban all kinds of private cheats on PC, but I'm talking about PS4 and Xbox One console versions of Destiny 2. Consoles are secure, closed down platforms, where only couple forms of cheating exist: connection manipulation, DoS attacks and macros. It is simply incomprehensible that game as a Service, game that can be considered platform all in itself, cannot deal with this. A good developer would have disabled any competitive playlist until these issues are resolved, but Bungie just rolls with it and sweeps everything under the rug. I'm posting this again with Ninja edit, because previous post was silently REMOVED FROM INDEXATION so no one could find it or post there, but it would still accessible via direct link. They still actively sweeping it under a rug, this is crazy! Check it out yourself, here is the link to the old thread: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/249494026 Looks okay, right? But can you find it or post there?[/quote] Notice how Bungie's tacking Cozmo's response at the top so people have to see the Lie from Bungie! Well, it's not like anyone would believe Cozmo anyway!
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Bump for visibility
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2 RepliesEdited by Gloomy_Cake: 11/8/2018 9:11:07 AMАбсолютно верно написано. Так же хотел бы отметить ужасную систему подбора игроков и баланса противоборствующих команд. В последние несколько недель. А точнее практически сразу после окончания Железного Знамени подбор игроков творит невероятные вещи. В Железном Знамени уже все было плохо и ты либо проигрывал со счётом 50-150, либо выигрывал 150-50. Но хотя бы процент побед/поражений был равным. Сейчас же на 10-15 поражений 2 вымученные победы. В команду подбираются люди с настолько разным коэффициентом убийства/смерти, что матч превращается в соревнование "кто больше новичков и неумех настреляет". В итоге, 2 или 3 человека из команды идут с 20 или 30 + убийствами и коэффициентом 1.0, 2.4, 3.0 и выше. А остальные с 2, ну или максимум 8 убийствами и коэффициентом от 0.2 до 0.5. Потому что они просто не могут ничего сделать. Почему нельзя их по разным комнатам расселить? Зачем смешивать игроков с настолько разным умением играть? Это портит впечатление от игры как новичкам, так и опытным игрокам. Первые не могут научиться играть, потому что не успевают что либо понять из-за постоянных смертей. Вторые же, потому что деградируют, полностью доминируя над слабым противником. P.S. Когда разработчики игры научатся создавать оружие, которое перестанет ломать баланс в игре, не только в pvp, но и в pve? И да, я пишу сейчас о Луне. Потому что этот ствол, как и Спящий Симулянт в Гамбите, уже надоел всем.
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bump for you...I got DDoS'd the other day by someone closely named to something like Illuminati
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1 ReplyCrazy 999 upvotes. Will it hit 1000?
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1 ReplyI was upvote 1000. I feel special. :^)
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3 RepliesWhy doesn't this come up under trending.
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Those idiots can't do anything right.
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Bump for visibility
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The ninja edit is disgusting. Shamefull shit.
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How is this not on the top of the post?
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Bump! This is alot more common than people think, especially under a Dev like Bungie that appears to accept it.
