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Highlights an even further need for separation between PvP and PvE
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  • very true, it looks like pvp has been pandered to and spoiled the game

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  • It really does.

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  • Nope. Get that out of your head. Not even in the realm of possibility, rightfully so.

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  • It is, you're just too narrow minded and full of yourself to realize it. So keep silent and let the game be run by those who are rational and grown up.

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  • [quote]So keep silent and let the game be run by those who are rational and grown up.[/quote] Oh the irony. Oh man. Get real buck. You are delusional if you think Bungie is close to even considering this asinine, drastic change in game style, [b]regardless[/b] of any pros or cons.

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  • If anything was conclusively proven beyond the shadow of a doubt in D1, it is that bungie does not have the ability to appease both camps and balance their weapon system for both pvp and pve. I think a total separation is the truest answer but there are alternatives that are less extreme; for example, many players i've spoken to have suggested each weapon having two sets of stats and perks. Just put a tab on each weapon's details screen that allows us to look at the other side. That way if they wished, they could implement this absurd and disrespectful maneuver about locking out randomized rolls on our weapons and only apply it to pvp and they could also optimize the stats on each weapon for both game types. Your activity would determine which set of perks and stats that weapon uses. The only thing that is abundantly clear is that something has to change if D2 is t avoid the crippling decay of it's predecessor.

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  • Nah, it's going to remain unified across activities and it'll be fine. It didn't bother people enough in D1 to even stop them from playing. Having separate stats and perks for weapons between PvP and PvE? That's twice the work. Bungie might as well just make [i]new[/i] weapons and have some PvE only and others PvP only. That's insane. What do you people not understand about the RPG and MMO elements that Bungie is sticking to? You're asking for them to change their vision of the game, not just balance it.

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  • Have you ever heard of world of warcraft? You know, the most successful MMORPG of all time, separate stats on pvp gear and gear specially tailored for pvp. You say it never bothered anybody in D1? That was the second biggest complaint (lack of content and meaningful story being first) in the first game! Nearly everybody complained about it. Just cause it didn't bother you doesn't mean everyone else wears blinders for this game.

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  • I [b]did not[/b] say it never bothered anyone. I said it didn't make anyone complain enough to quit the game. Comparing Destiny, a fps, to a traditional mmo, right off the bat, is flawed. You don't balance guns the same way you balance magic. I don't know what aspect of WoW you're referring to but it sounds like they just have certain gear that's better for PvP and the same for PvE. Well that's true of Destiny as well pal. Heard of Trials of Osiris and Iron Banner?

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  • That awkward moment when bungie has already proven they can change things in only pve or pvp. They did it to shotguns a long time ago they buffed their damage in only pve while they removed shot package 😂

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  • So what tardface? Think I don't know that? By that ignorant comment you should think PvP and PvE are already separate so what more do you want? I don't think you even understand what you're asking for, like everyone else with that inane stance. Damage scales differently. That's as different as it's going to get.

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  • Edited by Ruby: 7/21/2017 3:23:57 PM
    First off, tardface? Really? Second, nowhere in that post did I say I wanted seperate pve and pvp. Third, don't go keyboard warrioring and assuming peoples opinions are bad because they aren't yours its a feedback forum dude. And I was simply pointing out that obviously balancjng them seperately isn't impossible since they've done it before nowhere in there did I say you didn't know that or insult you in anyway but I guess since you are a child different opinions are scary. Lastly, tardface?

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  • Yeah, tardface. And you've earned it again tardface. [quote]That awkward moment[/quote] Fully assuming that I'm unaware of what you stated, hypocritically at that. Otherwise there'd be nothing awkward. So don't go trying to play the neutral card. You wouldn't attempt to be snarky with an emoji if you were, for some dumb reason, telling me something you thought I already was aware of. So it doesn't matter if you didn't outright claim I didn't know it. Damage in the beta scales differently in PvP and PvE so why tf do you think it's even relevant to bring up that it was like that in D1? I really wonder what your whole point in even chiming in was.

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