So a lot of players are up in arms over the annoucement of Destiny 2 being 30fps on Consoles. Really, folks need to calm down. Most devs will tell you that games use resources, and in order to achieve many landmarks they have to as the saying goes: [i]"Borrow from Peter to Pay Paul."[/i] This will honestly surprise many of you but the vast majority of Current (Formerly Next-Gen) Console games run at 30fps. Please look at this list for starters: http://m.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates I can also list links for every single game on that list's specs for those who need further proof. But I challenge you go look for yourself. You'll be very surprised. (GTA, Thief, Arkham Knight surprised me.) You'll notice the only genre of games that mostly are 60fps are: Arcade, Sports, Racing, Fighting, & [u][b]Multiplayer[/b][/u] First Person Shooter games. I underlined Multiplayer for a reason. These are games like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Battlefront, etc. These games are 90% PVP/[b]Multiplayer[/b] focused and their Maps/Sandboxes are [u][b]not[/b][/u] teeming with activity. Yes they have big multiplayer battles, but all (64, 40, 50, etc) players are rarely if ever on screen at the exact same time. Also, the game can pull it off because it isn't having to render, animate, & run the AI of various NPCs (People, Animals, etc) alongside processing what players are doing. Where as non-pvp centric/focused games like Borderlands, Dragon Age, Destiny, Farcry, Skyrim, GTA V, Sunset Overdrive, Watchdogs, Assassin's Creed, Shadow of Mordor; all have to animate these sandboxes & give them life. I'm posting this to help give folks clarity, & some peace of mind. The fps of the game isn't the make or break so many dramatic players are making it out to be. Also, it is more standard than 60fps just by sheer game count on that list alone. [u]That said. I 100% get why the PVP playerbase is up in arms.[/u] They are use to 60fps multiplayer. [b][u][i]In a perfect world[/i][/u][/b], yes, Destiny 2 could take the Gear of War route & have a 30fps pve & 60fps pvp. However, this would require a redesign of the game engine, & various lines of code & etc. Afterall, do note that Destiny 2 has been in development since The Taken King. It takes 2 years [b]minimum[/b] to make a current generation game. Add in that even that change could still force Bungie to remove things (IE: Borrow from Peter...) such flora, fauna, extra NPCs, or scale down resolution (1080 turns into 900) in order to achieve 60fps (...to Pay Paul ). Right now there are a half dozen map locales in Destiny 1 with no enemies, nothing. Folks complain heavily about that. Now, we all know this was caused by the last-gen consoles. They simply didn't have enough memory to support more active environments & keep Destiny's quality of Graphics. Comparison: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/next-gen-console-comparison-ps3-ps4-xbox-one-xbox-360/1100-6416217/ If Bungie were to...for the sake of arguement...make this change & announce that they would change fps to 30pve & 60pve. It would push Destiny 2 back 6 months to 1 year minimum. Think about that. (Could you stand Destiny 1 as is for 1 more entire year at a minimum?) Now PVP is a sore topic here because as the Destiny 1 population has lowered, so the seams of PVP in gaming began to show. Long queue times, bad connections due to distances, less even/equal/balanced in skill match ups, etc. So it seems worse than it actually is. Remember typically 15% & less of a game's playerbase visit the forums & 3rd party websites (reddit, etc). No one had an issue with Destiny's fps until the Destiny 2 reveal. (Think back. Was Destiny 1's fps even a frequently discussed topic?) So this was never truly an issue to begin with. So...yes. [b][i]Currently[/i][/b] 30fps is the standard, but 60fps is definitely the end goal. As devs come to understand the tech better. 60 will definitely become the common/standard fps. Odds are Destiny 3 will be 60fps in all aspects. Built from the ground up for it. Currently however if 60fps takes too much from the game, devs lock it at 30. They keep that static across platforms to ensure the experience is consistent & equal across platforms. PC is unlocked due to the nature of PCs, and their ultimate flexibility. Consoles do not have that luxury. No one denies, PS4 Pro & Scorpio can most likely play Destiny 2 at 1080p 60fps. But the game wasn't built for that, & to achieve that they'd need to build & release PS4 Pro & Scorpio exclusive versions. And then there would be no crossplay between PS4 Pro & PS4, XB1 & Scorpio. At this stage Destiny 2 is too far developed. But Destiny 3 will most likely be a different story. Anyways, I hope this can help cool some tempers, untrigger folks, & cause some cease fires. Apologies for the "Trigger" induced by the title. Posted by blueshirtguy: https://youtu.be/Smn_ZUGK7ZQ Very informative from Digital Foundry. Edit: This blew up. (Has a bad feeling it would but wanted to spread information anyway.) Added some clarification. Yes the articles are dated. But the point of them was to provide details. The game list was meant to provide a visual aid in the trends across various game genres. The console specs are just that. Those haven't changed any. Edit 2: Just to clear the air. I am not saying anything like: "We don't need 60fps" or "You are wrong to want 1080p @ 60fps." I am just informing folks that just because a game is 30fps. Does not mean it is a bad game. Does not mean the developer is lazy. There are often reasons for it, trade offs. Many of the best games of this generation (of consoles) are at 30fps.