Welcome back. Or if you found this one first, welcome. This is a series of posts discussing what the Nine are. Today we’ll be discussing the Ghost position. [quote]The Nine are Ghosts who pierced the Deep Black without a ship and meditated on the hissing silence of the heliopause.[/quote] Ghosts are known to search far and wide to find their guardian. They are also little balls of potential with their ability to spark life and light. Conveniently, Xur happens to be a ghost-like creation. [quote]"I think the cells of this body are dying."[/quote][quote]"Some of the cells in this body began on this world, how strange to return."[/quote][quote]"I feel a great many consciousnesses impinging on mine, and all of them so small and lonely.[/quote]If the Nine are Ghosts, then it could be that they made Xur from a collection of dead people who were not quite powerful enough to become a guardian. So the nine used the collective sparks of light from multiple bodies to create something that they can control. [i]”But wait, what about Xur saying the light hurts him?”[/i] Well, true, Xur says he thinks he feels pain from how much light is around him. Clearly these ghosts are different in some way. (I bet you know what quote I’m about to bring up next)[quote]The Awoken did not have a choice. We did[/quote]The Nine had a choice in the matter of something. It’s probably the change that made the awoken into the awoken and the ghosts into the Nine. [i]”But what was the change?”[/i] A bonding between the starlight and the dark. I’ve come to believe that life can be placed on a scale between light and dark, almost like a spectrum. On one end of the spectrum is pure light (the Traveler). On the other end of spectrum, you’ll find the Darkness itself. If we take what Dredgen Yor says about beings only having a small spark of light, we could assume everything is just a tiny bit on the light side of the spectrum. Beings like the hive however no longer seem to have sparks of light, but they certainly don’t seem to be the apocalyptic force that brought down our golden age, so we could place them a little more on the dark side of the spectrum, but not too far down. Right in the center we’ll find the awoken and (If the nine are like the awoken) the nine too. (Just for the heck of it, I’ll make a crummy visual of the spectrum I’m thinking about right now) ____________________________Light-Dark spectrum________________________________ Traveler---------guardians---------Awoken/nine---------Hive-----Taken----Queen of final shapes But now just what in the heck allowed ghosts to bond with dark forces? If a guardian can go dark, why can’t a ghost? [i]But how exactly does a ghost just bond with the dark?[/i][quote]"Your Traveler has a dark mirror." ~Xur[/quote][quote]My Hidden tell me that the Taken shine with seething, negative light. ~Ikora[/quote] If say a ghost came into contact with this “negative light” which may have been left around by the traveler’s “dark mirror” I don’t see a reason why a ghost couldn’t roll around in it to mask its scent from the minions of dark that came flocking into the system. On that note, what do you think would happen if you took a ghost that was mixed with light and dark, and had it do its usual thing. You probably wouldn’t get a guardian, but you probably won’t get something like a dark guardian either. So what do you get? Maybe something new. Something born of starlight and the dark. Maybe you’d get yourself an awoken. Now of course, one would think, “If Light-dark ghosts resurrected somebody,wouldn’t that person have special abilities?” I suppose they would, and if there’s only nine ghosts, then there’s certainly not enough for every awoken that’s in the reef. Matter of fact, there’s a card where we get to see an awoken being born. (Ghost Fragment: Awoken 2) But I still think the nine may have had a hard in the awoken creation. I believe the Nine may have resurrected a select few, and those few went on to grow the awoken population through other methods. I say this because it is evident that there are some special awoken, such as Mara Sov and her Techeuns. That’s eight special awoken right there. So who is the ninth? Probably Uldren, (Given that he is literally the Queen’s brother.) Boom. Nine special ghosts and nine special awoken individuals. Still have doubts? Have you considered the fact that the queen is “still alive” despite the fact that she and the Techeuns caught a space magic blast with their face. If the Nine are in fact ghosts and Mara belongs to one of those ghosts, they it makes sense that she can die, but still isn’t dead. Her ghost can still resurrect her. So what am I saying? I’m saying that if the Nine are ghosts who went out into space and now meditate on the hissing heliopause, they may have had to hide themselves from the forces of darkness (hive, fallen, etc) by rolling around in the strange substance out in the reef. The ghosts blended starlight with darkness and continued with their mission to resurrect people. However, when they resurrected the collapse runners, they ended up creating creatures born of light and dark: The awoken. The Nine-born awoken (similar to guardians) were given special “abilities.” Things like being able to summon the harbingers. As to why the nine left the awoken, I can’t be sure. The Nine may have left them to better understand the power that they obtained. [b][u]TL;DR:[/u][/b] So let’s wrap this up. If we assume the Ghost position is true, then the Nine were some of the first few ghosts who went to the outer system to find their guardians. They came across a strange substance that allowed them to transform themselves. They became ghosts of light and dark and when they tried to resurrect their “Guardians.” they ended up creating the first few awoken. (Which may or may not be Mara Sov, her brother, and the seven Techeuns) The Nine later left the awoken to meditate on the hissing heliopause. Congratulations, you made it through another one of my mad ramblings. Hope you enjoyed. To the next one: [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/226907211][Firstborn Awoken][/url] To the previous one: [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/221983316][Darkness][/url][quote]Back to master thread: [url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/205238605[/url][/quote] Cheers :D