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7/4/2016 7:51:10 AM
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Why is the 4th of July more celebrated than Constitution Day?

(For Brits and other foreigners: 4th of July is American Independence Day) I honestly think it's just an excuse people use to get hammered. Why is the 4th of July celebrated more than Constitution Day? We decided to fervently celebrate the day a bunch of old white dudes signed a document that literally just said "-blam!- you Britain". We weren't even necessarily close to actually winning the war at the moment. In fact, until the constitution was created, we were just a confederacy of sovereign states that argued and bickered and nearly went to war with each multiple times as economies repeatedly crashed due to the fact each state had its own currency. It took a rebellion to make our leaders see they done -blam!-ed up, but nooo, American leaders wanna make it look like we never -blam!- up. -blam!-ing hypocrites... And now? Now we're just a system breaking down beyond repairs, a product of three million millionaires, a hundred million easy marks. We've finally become the divided states. A nation built on freedom, fear, and hate, the denotation of Irony.

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  • Edited by Recon Number 54: 7/4/2016 7:04:00 PM
    I suspect that it's a number of things. Not the least of which is that it's easiest to point to on a calendar. If one were to compare a nation to an individual, July 4th the day that the Declaration was ratified, could be treated as similar to a birthday. If one were to continue the analogy, the writing and ratification of the US Constitution could be seen as an individual who "gets their shit together and figures out what they're going to do with their life". It's a blurry comparison, because the US Constitution is the document that actually founds the Union and sets the structure of the government. But (trying to assist the analogy), a newborn can't walk, talk, or express its thoughts clearly to other humans (short of "I am hungry, I am uncomfortable, etc." and can only express those by crying). The birth is a landmark, but so is the transition into a self-aware, self-determining individual. But the latter is a process, and the former is an event. As I said, it's easy to point at the calendar and say "July 4, 1776 is the date when the Declaration of Independence was ratified". But the Constitution? A much more drawn out process with many stages and steps (much like the maturation of an individual). Delaware was the first state to ratify, on December 7, 1787 and the last was Rhode Island on May 29, 1790." Over 2 years before the 13 all signed off, and the last hold-out was essentially coerced and threatened with being treated as a foreign nation unless they ratified it. So, even though there is a Constitution Day that is designated by a single day on the calendar, the acceptance and ratification of the document took a long time and a lot of debate, argument and compromise (a number of states were arguing over whether the Bill of Rights should be in the main document, should be written as amendments, or whether or not they should be in the document at all).

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  • [quote]old white dudes[/quote] They were white, but they certainly weren't all old, The average age being 44. Revolution isn't an old man's game. - Der

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    • Because most Americans don't study the rich history of their country and instead view 1776 as[b][u]MOST IMPORTANT YEAR EVAH! THATS WHEN EVERYTHING HAPPENED![/u][/b]

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    • Look at it this way, there wouldn't have been a constitution day I'd we didn't declare our independence from Britain.

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    • Because we're not a bunch of god damn commys like you are. [i][b]AMERICA SHALL NEVER FALL TO COMMUNIST INVASION[/b][/i]

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    • A better question would be why is it the only day that Americans say the date in the right order i.e. day then month.........

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      • We declared independence today. Who cares about Shays rebellion? Most people don't remember anything else about our countries founding. We're celebrating the day we said "-blam!- you" to the british and the rest of the world. If that's not the most American thing ever, I don't what is.

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        • Edited by Twitchtwisted: 7/4/2016 6:08:38 PM
          [http://www.constitutionfacts.com/us-declaration-of-independence/fourth-of-july/] It is the day that all of the final changes to the declaration of independence were approved. And as a result the date placed in the constitution and on all paperwork, fliers, etc.

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          • You can't get wasted and play with explosives on constitution day

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          • [i]Today we celebrate our Independence![/i]

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            • [quote]other foreigners[/quote] Woah there you are treading on like, delicate triggering grounds here.

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                • It's because 7/4/1776 was the birth of the nation that would become the United States of America

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                • Because it's the day we said "-blam!- you Britain."

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                  • Because it's the day we solidified ourselves into a formal resistance. Sure we all didn't like each other. [spoiler]And had to re write our entire foundation after it failed[/spoiler] But that date is when U.S.A stopped being a free floating idea and became a real thing.

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