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Edited by Mmonx: 7/16/2016 11:28:40 PM
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High Impact Shotguns In Depth

If you like Reading Instead: Long Post These shotguns are well known in the crucible due to their ability to reliably kill with a single shot. First lets look at the lower impact versions of this type of shotgun. This archetype includes the Silence of A’arn, Binary Dawn, Deidris’s Retort, and Two To The Morgue. - They Fire at about 52 rpm default and 104rpm with full-auto - Deal a maximum damage per pelt of 21 to 22 to the body and 26 to 27 to the head (damage varies depending of barrel choice) - Deal a maximum of about 260 damage total per shot - 10 pellets are needed to kill (fires 12 per shot) - TTK with two shots is about 1.15s default and 0.58s with full-auto These shotguns have very good range and damage, able to get 1 shot kills from a fair range. They also do kill quickly enough with 2 shots to beat most primaries body shot kill times. This means that if your opponent is not hitting headshots you should usually be able to get two shots of your shotgun on them. With full-auto there is the usual trade off; you lose some of your range ability but gain enough fire rate to put your two shot kill time above that of any primary weapon. Next, lets look at the highest impact tier of shotguns. This includes only the Conspiracy Theory-D and her Champion. - They fire at about 45rpm default and 90rpm with full-auto - Deal a maximum damage per pelt of 22 to 23 to the body and 27 to 28 to the head (damage varies depending of barrel choice) - Deal a maximum of about 270 damage total per shot - 9 pellets are needed to kill (fires 12 per shot) - TTK with two shots is about 1.34s default and 0.67s with full-auto These shotguns have the best damage and the longest 1 shot kill range. The only issue that they shot so slowly, if you don’t get the 1 shot kill you will likely not get a second shot. These are best for skilled shotgun users who are great with their movement abilities and can aim accurately quickly. With full-auto these will be very similar to the last tier. Overall this tier of shotgun is your best for getting reliable 1 shot kills and is highly oriented for a skilled player. The other shotgun to note is the Party Crasher +1. The party crasher is in my opinion the best shotgun of the high impact tier. It has a fire rate closer to the 1st tier (I don’t have one to test for its exact fire rate) and the best range of any shotgun in the game. This makes it one of the best for 1 shot kills and not feel slow like the conspiracy theory. It was my personal favorite in year 1 and its new year 2 version riddles the crucible and is a favorite of many (sadly RNG has not prized me with one). Overall these high impact shotguns are your best for competitive play in the crucible. Which is your favorite high impact shotgun? All other In depth posts: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/209148528

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  • Honestly I like the comedian, mine has full auto, surrounded, and rifled barrel it's pretty good especially with a defender Titan. Just popped by bubble and half the other team just walked into it I got surrounded active and just go off lol

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    • My Titan's PC+1 with rangefinder, rifled barrel, danger close and aggressive ballistics is a meat grinder.

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      • The drift0r of destiny!

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        • Whats with the aim assist? Partycrasher has not really an aim assist. Other shotguns like conspiracy or weaponmaster shootguns feel in pve really sticky ... whats with pvp?

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        • A party crasher with aggressive ballistics and a range perk like rifled barrel will have max range, the same impact as conspiracy theory, and more than double the fire rate.

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          • Had a tonne of pc+1 but cant get that god roll with range finder. Stiuck with my D

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          • The Chaperone is my favorite shotgun

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            • Anyone else notice that full auto makes the spread worse? Maybe its just me, but I have a full auto party crasher and it has problems one shotting ppl even at point blank. Often I have to follow up with a 2nd shot. I dont like this because ammo is so limited. If you have noticed this too leave a comment.

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              • It took me forever to get a nice party crasher. It wasn't until about a month ago that I got one with underdog and grenadier, and smallbore for the middle tree. Obviously this looked quite appealing to me as underdog gave the boost to range when critically injured, and smallbore also added onto the range. Grenadier was also nice because rapid kills helped me quickly charge up my grenades, making running and gunning much more devastating for me. Shortly after that I got a party crasher from the weekly bounties, which equated to weapon parts and legendary marks, as the roll on that one wasn't able to outshine the underdog, grenadier one that I'd been using previously. Finally, last night, I got one that really stuck out to me. This one rolled with crowd control, final round, and rifled barrel. It hits the max range allowed for shotguns and overall it's a beast. All I can say is keep trying. Keep playing crucible, do your weekly bounties, and hopefully RNG will bless you. Took me a long time but it finally happened

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              • Party crasher is like in its own category. Decent fire rate and amazing impact <3

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              • I got a reinforced barrel aggressive ballistics, and range finder party crasher

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              • Idk I still like my Two to the Morge

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              • Felwinter's Lie. The best shotgun there ever was, before nerfs and adjustments got in the way.

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                • Edited by Inf3Rn0 ShocKz: 5/21/2016 5:02:36 PM
                  Matador 64 is the best. With the right roll it can consistently one shot from the furthest distance.

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                • ....and then there's Invective for us scrubby-azz low talent shotgunners who burn through ammo like crazy and can't hit the broad side of Shaxx's shoulders.... lol

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                  • I don't run shotguns but every once in a while I'll use my conspiracy theory and using it give me a reason why I should snipe instead but all and all my primary wins my games for me

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                  • A little odd to go into all this detail, then mention the shotgun you think is the best as a footnote :)

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                    • Party Crasher yr 1 and yr 2 versions when I have an exotic equipped elsewhere. I also get a lot of mileage out of Invective. Chaperone and Lord of Wolves are both fun in spots.

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                    • Edited by Talktofranky: 5/21/2016 3:12:28 PM
                      My favorites (both max range stat) 2TTM void Field choke Full Auto Rifled Barrel Surrounded PC+1 solar Aggressive Full Auto Rifled Barrel Exhumed [spoiler]on lock and titan[/spoiler]

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                    • I love my God roll Her Champion.

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                    • My trials shotgun Rangefinder and perk that if you hit a shot you get 25% melee damage increase perfect for my style, shoot then melee with warlock.

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                      • This information is false. Full auto only increases the fire rate when it is fired consecutively and continuously, which really only comes into play when panicking in PVP and because of Full auto's weird recoil pattern, you will be missing more of your shots. I have tested this out and it is true. Does full auto increase fire rate? Yes, but it doesn't double it, that's bullshit. It is faster but your full auto party crasher will NOT become a Fourth Horseman or even an invective. Another bad thing about full auto is that you chug down ammunition like crazy. I currently have a Next Big Thing with full auto and it does kill people very fast, it eats up bullets like crazy, which is something that you do not want to do in PVP. The worst part is hip firing any shotgun with Full Auto. It makes the gun kick like a mule so whenever you panic, you will loose the gun fight 90% of the time. Is full auto worth it? Yes, but in my opinion, only on high ROF pulse/scout rifles and high ROF shotguns because I am too lazy to spam the trigger as fast as possible

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                        • What do shotguns shoot? Shells would travel across a room right? Or the so called pellets would fly across a room right? If impact matters than what material makes up the impact?

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                          • Edited by Heidegger: 5/21/2016 9:48:14 AM
                            Favorite high impact is easily the Party Crasher, wish Rng would give me a decent roll. Favorite shotgun in the game is easily Universal Remote :)

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                            • My favorite is still felwinters lie or universal remote for high impact. If I am running pure fire rate ill go with invective or 4th horseman.

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                            • Pc+1 also has the tightest pellet spread of all the high impact shotguns.

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