I play Destiny about 10 to 15 hours a week. I know there are many players that play more than that. They are also many players that are better than me at PvP and PvE. Destiny could be better, there are many issues that need fixed, but it could also be so much worse. Every time a new game comes out that will "kill Destiny" it never happens. Fallout 4 through Division were enjoyable and I left to play them for a while, but I came back to Destiny just like I always do. When I switched consoles I told myself that I wasn't going to buy Destiny again, that it was old, and would not get any better. Yet here I am back playing almost daily again. Destiny is still the best game out there. Will it have issues, if course. Is it frustrating, sure it is. But we all keep right on playing, right on grinding. For what it is worth, Destiny is my hand of choice, at least until I get to old to play. Hasn't happened yet!