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Edited by A Syrian Refugee: 3/23/2016 4:20:05 PM
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Quran 8:12 = Religion of Peace?

[b]" I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and cut off every fingertip on them"[/b] Thats so peaceful. I think instead of those relaxing bird chirping noises that I fall asleep to Im just going to record that verse and play it on repeat while i try to fall asleep EDIT: I like how the Pro-Islam crowd is using slavery quotes from the Bible to say "Look Islam isnt the only one". Sorry but talking about slavery and encouraging beheading nonbelievers is a little different!
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  • Luke 19:27, how peaceful was jc again?

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  • Leviticus 20:13

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  • Fuking vegans

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  • All religion is rather silly. People just can't stand the thought of nonexistence.

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  • Solution kill every one and the world will be at peace

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  • I'm trying to think of the perfect person for saying that quote.

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  • Edited by EetnoAni: 3/23/2016 6:14:14 AM
    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. This is a stupid argument.

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    • Go and attack the Amalekites! Destroy them and all their possessions. Don’t have any pity. Kill their men, women, children, and even their babies. Slaughter their cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys.” God asks Saul to destroy a people, he didn't have the guts and let the women and kids go, guess what? He lost his kingship. I have a thousand more examples of things like this, God praising attempted genocide and commanding it. All in the bible. Now let me educate you, most laws commanding Muslims to kill appeal to wartime or jihad. Jihad can only be called on by a caliph or a very very high up religious leader. This has not happened once in modern history. As such Isis and any terrorist organization is an insolent and rouge group. They are over a billion Muslims, if the religion and not the bastardization of it was the problem the world would be a LOT more chaotic.

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      • Edited by TheRealBigC: 12/10/2021 7:33:21 PM
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        • Religion is not the place to find morality and humanity.

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          • Edited by Mr Mulberry: 3/23/2016 6:46:48 AM
            Exodus 21:20 [quote]"Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result,"[/quote] Exodus 21:21 [quote]"but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."[/quote] You can find crap like this anywhere. Men trying to justify their actions as terrible people, that's what it is.

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            • Psalm 137 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea we wept when we remembered Zion. Remember, O lord, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem who said, "Raze it, raze it, even to the foundation." O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed. Happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

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              • Luke 19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

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              • Edited by Timmie: 3/24/2016 3:45:10 PM
                Deuteronomy 17 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

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                • Stfu you ignorant imbecile, I'll show you what reall terror is, I'll -blam!- your mum, blow your house and the rest of your family, soon after I'll stone you

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                  • K 2:190-191 [2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers. K 9:122-123 . [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). K 5:033 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned [Pickthall and Yusuf Ali have "exiled" rather than "imprisoned"]; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, K 8:012 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. K 9:029 Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those the people of the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. K 8:39 Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allahs religion reigns supreme K47:4 So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite their necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, K48:25 Muslims are harsh against the unbeliever, and merciful to one another K8:67 It is not for any prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter In the land. K 9:005 then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, K 9:073 Make war against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh with them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination. K 66:009 Prophet! make war against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort. K5:54 O believers, take not the Jews and Christians as friends, they are friends of each other K3:151 Soon shall we cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers K4:89 seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. K98:51 The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.

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                  • Nothing sounds quite like peace other than slaughtering the infidels.

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                    • Edited by LiL x TiGeRz: 3/24/2016 5:18:55 PM
                      Ffs, you idiot. I'm no expert but it may not be this quote but there is another people use. It says if you find a non-believer kill him, but if you look at the previous line it says if you are in a war... And find one kill him. EDIT: Checked it. The context of the conversation was that two guys were talking about what to do. One was scared by the non-believers (as it was quite bad back then) and the the other said that Allah(God) told the Angels that he would do all the bad stuff to non-believers of needed and so there is no reason to be scared. Plz do reply m8 with more gr8 h8.

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                    • There's extremes to every religion, if you followed the bible to the letter you'd stone people for mixing fabrics. (I'm sure there's other examples from the other religious texts, but I can't think of them). We need to remember to not let the worst of every group define our view of said group.

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                      • Well that makes me question certain things. Didn't know that. :/

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                      • I'm going to throw out some numbers/info for you: -In France alone 25% of the teenage population are Muslim. While France is not part of Britain, it IS your neighbor. -There are roughly 3 million Muslims in the UK, based off numbers from 2011. --This number makes up about 5% of your population. --The Muslim population of England and Wales is growing faster than the overall population according to an analysis of official data. -Based off past data, the Muslim population is expected to grow to around 25 million by 2051. Now that we have some numbers, let's dive DEEEEEEP IN THAT PUTANG: This is what I just pulled real quick from the net. I didn't feel like finding more up-to-date stuff. It's probably worse now, though. -Polls from around 10 years ago showed this: --30% (900,000 Muslims) want Sharia Law. --28% (840,000 Muslims) want Britain to be an Islamic State. -A ComRes poll for the BBC in February of 2015 found that 27% of British Muslims had some sympathy for the motives behind the attacks on Charlie Hebdo. Now, there is an estimated 9 million of Syrian refugees in the EU. It's safe to assume that almost all of them are Muslims. It's been said that the refugees will not be able to assimilate into your society because there are just too many coming in at once which will allow them to set up their own communities and not have a need to adjust to Western society. Also, I'd like to point out that the number of refugees coming into the EU is still own pace with the number that came in last year and we haven't even entered Spring yet.

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                        • Quit cherry picking phrases and actually learn about the religion before you make ignorant statements.

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                          • [i]~"Let's dispel with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing." [/i]

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                            • And people like you are why we have idiots hating for no reason...

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                              • Edited by Z6E1Z9O: 3/23/2016 3:47:06 PM
                                Anti-Islamics like to always bring this up and claim that this verse proves that Islam promotes terrorism and that the Quranorders Muslims to go and chop people's heads off along with their finger tips.   The fact that anti-Islamic’s make such claims shows their lack of knowledge on Islam, and that they should really study Islam with an open heart rather than visit anti-Islamic sites, and read anti-Islamic books and believe everything they tell you.   Even that goon Ali Sina uses this same argument over and over again showing how little he knows about Islam.   So to make things easier for everybody, I shall give the explanation of this verse, in doing so it shall help making dialog between Muslims and anti-Islamic’s much easier, since there can’t be any dialog when one party's information is incorrect and distorted.   To begin, this verse is referring to a [b][u]SPECIFIC BATTLE[/u][/b], this verse is not an order on Muslims, and this verse is talking about a battle that took place. The battle it is referring to is the battle of Badr.   Al-Maududi's introduction to this Surahwrites:   Name The Surah takes its name AL-ANFAL (The Bounties) from the first verse.   The Period of Revelation It was revealed in 2 A. H. after the Battle ofBadr, the first battle between Islam andkufr. As it contains a detailed and comprehensive review of the Battle, it appears that most probably it was revealed at one and the same time. But it is also possible that some of the verses concerning the problems arising as a result of thisBattle might have been revealed later and incorporated at the proper places to make it a continuous whole. At any rate, in the whole Surah there is nothing that might show that it is a collection of a couple ofdiscourses, that have been patched up together. (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/maududi/mau8.html)   Let us now also post the tafsir of IbnKathir regarding this verse:   Allah commands the Angels to fight and support the Believers Allah said next, [???? ?????? ??????? ????? ?????????????? ?????? ???????? ???????????? ????????? ??????????]((Remember) when your Lord revealed to the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed.'')   This is a hidden favor that Allah has made known to the believers, so that they thank Him and are grateful to Him for it. Allah, glorified, exalted, blessed and praised be He, has revealed to the angels -- whom He sent to support His Prophet, religion and believing group -- to make the believers firmer. Allah's statement,   [????????? ??? ??????? ????????? ????????? ?????????](I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved.) means, `you -- angels -- support the believers, strengthen their (battle) front against their enemies, thus, implementing My command to you. I will cast fear, disgrace and humiliation over those who defied My command and denied My Messenger, f   [???????????? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ???????? ????? ???????](sostrike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.) strike them on their foreheads to tear them apart and over the necks to cut them off, and cut off their limbs, hands and feet. It was said that,   [?????? ???????????](over the necks) refers to striking the forehead, or the neck, according to Ad-Dahhak and `Atiyyah Al-`Awfi. In support of the latter, Allah commanded the believers,   [??????? ????????? ????????? ????????? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ????? ???????????????? ?????????? ??????????](So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's cause) those who disbelieve, smite (their) necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, take them as captives).) [47:4] Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said, "In the aftermath of Badr, the people used to recognize whomever the angels killed from those whom they killed, by the wounds over their necks, fingers and toes, because those parts had a mark as if they were branded by fire.'' Allah said,   [???????????? ???????? ????? ???????](andsmite over all their fingers and toes.) Ibn Jarir commented that this Ayah commands, "O believers! Strike every limb and finger on the hands and feet of your (disbelieving) enemies.'' Al-`Awfi reported, that Ibn `Abbas said about the battle ofBadr that Abu Jahl said, "Do not kill them (the Muslims), but capture them so that you make known to them what they did, their ridiculing your religion and shunning Al-Lat and Al-`Uzza (two idols).'' Allah than sent down to the angels,   [?????? ???????? ???????????? ????????? ?????????? ????????? ??? ??????? ????????? ????????? ????????? ???????????? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ???????? ????? ???????](Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.)   In that battle, Abu Jahl (may Allah curse him) was killed along with sixty-nine men. `Uqbah bin Abu Mua`it was captured and then killed, thus bring the death toll of the pagans to seventy,    

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                                • The problem is that most are reading a bullshit interpretation rather than what it's written in. A Lebanese friend of mine is tri-lingual and has read it in its unfiltered form. From what he said, there's no mistaking that it's very violent and by all means wants other religions and its followers destroyed. The hatred and violence of it is what turned him to Christianity. The bullshit version that's in English is not remotely written or read in the same context according to people like him who can read it accurately.

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