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originally posted in: Sunsingers!!!!
Edited by BrotherMeeseeks113: 2/15/2016 8:57:44 PM
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I haven't used my warlock as much as I should have done, I've had a titan since my start to destiny shortly after its launch but I have got used to it and used all 3 subclasses in both PvE and PvP and I have to say I have had a lot of fun with! I think it's a brilliant class for pvp and I don't think most people realise that they're meant to be a mid range class, they don't like being at titan face smash range so they have their melee, their "get the f#@k away from me!". You know, the best way to counter that melee.....don't get that close, back that ass up! Both titans and hunters can be fast when you haul ass, titans especially, if you got shoulder charge and twilight garrison nobody can catch you. Alas, I digress, back to warlocks lol Ive never felt that they're op, I have found them to be very hard to kill at times if your I'll equipped or you second guess your move against one and although I do think that self res is very unfair in the likes of trials I also argue the contrary where it's part of what makes a sunsinger, it's a part of their class just like shoulder charge is part of what makes a striker and the throwing knife is part of what makes a golden gunner. The thing that bothers me about this nerf this and nerf that mentality that's drowning destiny is that all of it is unnecessary, people will never be happy, why do they have to complain constantly about it?! Bring things to their attention, like they intended, in a half civil and honest manner. Instead of just screaming all over the forums and crying for nerfs why don't they give them civil feedback, their opinion on the issue they've encountered? I'd be willing to bet that at the very least about 90% of nerf posts are created out of momentary anger due to an unfortunate meeting with whatever they're crying about. Things need to get back to how they used to be when people found a way to counter whatever was "op", not demoralising the creator of their game and ordering them to make everything but what they use useless so they can win all the time, there are going to be times when theyre out gunned, there are going to be times when they're just out classed and they have their ass handed to them, everyone gets their ass handed to them sometimes but why destroy everybody else's experience because they got killed a few times?!
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    Bump Radiance is a lot less of an offensive super also. In terms of elimination gamemodes, radiance is mainly used as a last resort to revive teammates. People used to tell me that sunsinger was weak, stick with voidwalker. I remember everyone hating on the voidwalker grenades and nova bomb for whatever reason. In my experience with all classes, I'd have to say that Fist of Havoc is the most offensive/defensive super. The lightning grenades are very powerful also. What I see in all of this is that most people think warlock grenades and supers are better than every other class' supers. I've told a few that the sunsinger grenades work in the way they've seen due to three perks. Firebolt grenade, viking funeral, and touch of flame. Viking funeral takes the place of two other perks, increased duration of radiance or spawn two orbs from melee kills. Touch of flame takes the place of angel of light and the ability to hold two grenade charges. In all honesty, my warlock has max intellect and discipline because the warlock's strength is in the grenades. Same with my titan. My hunter is strength instead. People complained about the warlock melee range, it does have around 1ft extra range over other classes, however, it activates slower and takes a split second longer to facepalm a second time. If melee abilities are concerned in this, throwing knives and smoke grenades have a lot more range to them than scorch. Throwing knives burn, titan hos melee burns (if im not mistaken, haven't fully upgraded hos as I've always preferred foh or bubble-the original tether). If you really want to see why people complain, look at what they use. Most have jumped on aimbot 1000 yard+doctrine because they want to win at all costs. If they lose to someone else, they get mad because why should they lose? They used the best weapons! Must be that guy's class. If warlock gets nerfed, I'm going onto my titan with armamentarium and humming lightning grenades everywhere xD

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  • I feel it's more of a tit for tat mentality. As you also pointed out people will get killed by something & rage. I'm assuming this is being cause by Crimson Doubles where Sunsingers are really shining in this playlist & since some people either don't have a leveled warlock or don't like using them (usually do to not being able to get our jump down) they get killed by Sunsingers a lot. Its unfortunate & I definitely feel their plight but to go as far as to say they are Op is a bit much, there is just currently a crucible playlist that plays to the warlocks strengths. After Crimson Doubles I doubt anyone will pay us any mind but it's sad that they are already calling for our heads.

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