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Edited by WINTER PROPHET: 9/12/2015 3:10:28 PM
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Share your "2.0 patch" failures and lies from Bungie.

[b]If you have a nerf you are aware of that Bungie didn't tell us was coming, or a failure of a buff Bungie didn't do what they were supposed to do, comment below, and I'll attempt to monitor and add your contributions to this thread. Ty.[/b] [b][i][u]••••SCOUT RIFLES••••[/u][/i][/b] Base Damage increased slightly for "Medium" to "High" Rate-of-Fire Scout Rifles. Small adjustment, does not change shots-per-kill in PVP against another Guardian with full health [b][i][u]Magazine Size increased on all base stats[/u][/i][/b] Accuracy when firing from hip is reduced ([b][i][u]by what????)[/u][/i][/b] Damage done against AI combatants increased by 5% --Base damage increase for scout rifles is not said. "Slightly increased" with nothing mentioned means you "slightly increased nothing". --[b][i]no change in magazine sizes IN GAME. Failure to apply and WAS NOT DONE in-game.[/i][/b] ________________________ [b][i][u]••••PULSE RIFLES••••[/u][/i][/b] All Stable (low recoil) Pulse Rifles (i.e., Hopscotch Pilgrim) now use "Medium" Rate-of-Fire base stats "Medium" Pulse Rifle's Rate-of-Fire has slightly increased [b][i][u](by what???[/u][/i][/b]), but with base Damage reduced slightly (2.5%) PVP: Bursts-to-kill (all precision hits) is 2 or 3, depending on victim’s Armor stat [b][i][u]Magazine Size increased[/u][/i][/b] on all base stats Base Stability reduced slightly (by what???) Landing consistent precision shots require more weapon control Damage done against AI combatants increased by 25% [b][i][u]---Magazine sizes NOT increased. FAILED TO APPLY in-game. ---Hopscotch pilgrim impact NERFED, but not "The Messenger" impact, or "SpareChange2.5" impact.[/u][/i][/b] ________________________ [b][i][u]••••SHOTGUNS••••[/u][/i][/b] Shotgun precision damage scalar grants 10% bonus damage (Was 25%) Shot Package perk reduces the cone spread by 20% (was 50%) Rangefinder perk adds a 10% base Range increase on zoom (was 20) [b][i][u]Damage done against AI combatants reduced by 45% ( 2.25-> 1.15)[/u][/i][/b] [b][i][u]--Bungie stated SHOTGUNS were only going to receive a -10% PVE damage NERF against AI combatants. THIS patch notes area states -45%. So literally... Bungie lied.[/u][/i][/b] _____________________ [b][i][u]••••FUSION RIFLES••••[/u][/i][/b] Fusion Rifles now no longer get more accurate with each projectile fired Fusion Rifles that are slow charging, high impact now have a slightly lower base Range value, making it harder to max out range for these weapons Accuracy increased for low range Fusion Rifles; Accuracy reduced for high range Fusion Rifles Max Fusion Rifle [b][i][u]projectile speed decreased slightly[/u][/i][/b] Damage done against AI combatants increased by 15% [b][i][u]--Fusion Rifle projectiles are made of ENERGY, not a "physical Ballistic". Same as the "Hard Light" projectiles. It's why there's a PERK called "ENHANCED BATTERY". [/u][/i][/b] [b][i][u]••••YEAR ONE PERKS••••[/u][/i][/b] We have revisted all of these Year One stat perks and [b][i][u]reduced the amount they buff your weapon stat[/u][/i][/b] to re-normalize against Year Two weapon lethality and reinforce specialization so players are making meaningful trade-offs on weapons. Field Scout: No longer affects magazine. Reduced inventory bonus by 37% [b][i][u]--YOU STATED "reduced the amount they buff your weapon STAT". FIELD SCOUT is a "WEAPON STAT", it WASNT "reduced". You didn't reduce the buff to the weapon stat. You "REMOVED field scout from ALL THE WEAPONS" by nullifying the field scouts ability of adding to the weapon magazine entirely. It's a weapon stat. You said you'd reduce the stat, NOT "remove it". SO that is a lie. --Adding reserve ammo from field scout to the ammo inventory is worthless. ARMOR PERKS ADD AMMO TO THE RESERVE ON ALL KINDS OF ARMOR PIECES. This wasted everyone's grind time, gear earning, and leveling armor.[/u][/i][/b] __________________________ [b][i][u]••••STRIKES••••[/u][/i][/b] Burn (Arc, Void, Solar) Skulls now [b][i][u]only increases player damage by 2x (down from 3x).[/u][/i][/b] Combatant damage to player is unchanged at 3x. --Negating 1/3 the player burn in nightfalls is [b][i][u]complete garbage. ENEMY COMBATANTS on many occasions have "elemental shields" that don't match their "elemental weapons". Players DONT have "elemental shields", and even IF you add the "elemental defense perks" on players armor in TTK... you've literally made ALL ELEMENTAL WEAPONS we have earned and will earn ONE THIRD useless. [/u][/i][/b] [b]*******community contributions**********[/b] [b]X LoveBone X[/b]: [[quote][i]"They never mentioned changes on sniper rifles that make it nearly impossible to aim under fire."[/i][/quote] [b]BE11Y[/b]: [quote]"[i]Bad juju and red death got mag increases Shotgun damage was definitely given the shaft Guess they just do whatever the magic eight ball says..."[/i][/quote] [b]DAS HUUND[/b]: [quote]Pre Y1 "Heart of Praxic Fire" Armor spawned 7 fusion 'nades when SUPER was activated..Now only spawns 4....WTF ![/quote] [b]TOMORROW FIRE[/b]: [quote]Pulse rifle ammo is inconsistent with braced frame perk. On spawn my clip size changes between 33, 27, and 24. There is some math bumping heads. Lol[/quote] [b]VAMPIRE NOX:[/b] (listed in spoiler) [spoiler] [quote][b][u]Field Scout[/b][/u] *Field Scout: No longer affects magazine. *Reduced inventory bonus by 37% [b](then what the -blam!- is it good for!? So I can hold +6 rounds in my ammo reserves!?!?)[/b] [b][u]Perfect Balance[/b][/u] *Reduced stability bonus by 40% [b](a "balance" perk that does next to nothing to increase stability? Do you developers even know that a perfectly balanced firearm/blade is [i]supposed to be[/i] nigh-infinitely better than one that is not!? That is why "perfectly balanced" weapons are so highly sought after in any game! Now the weapons jump around and they get no help whatsoever. You would have been better removing the Perk entirely and replacing it with one named "good luck getting a head shot...")[/b] [b][u]Speed Reload[/b][/u] *Reduced reload bonus by 80% [b](this is a joke, right? What -blam!-ing good is a "speed" perk that doesn't increase speed in any noticeable way!?)[/b] [b][u]Heavy Payload[/b][/u] *Reduced blast radius bonus by 50% [b](you guys apparently have no idea that a "heavy payload" means much bigger/more lethal explosions... which means A BIGGER -blam!-ING BLAST RADIUS!!!)[/b] [b][u]Extended Mag[/b][/u] *Reduced magazine bonus by 33% [b](See Field Scout above. Really, Bungie!? -blam!-ing WHY!?!? WHAT'S THE POINT OF EVEN [i]HAVING[/i] IT NOW!?)[/b] [b][u]Accelerated Coils[/b][/u] *Reduced charge time by 50% [b](So... not [i]actually[/i] accelerated then?)[/b] [b][u]Aggressive Ballistics[/b][/u] *Reduced damage bonus by 50%. *Increased stability and range penalties by 100% [b](So, not really "aggressive" anymore...should've renamed the Perk to "Mewling Kitten Ballistics".)[/b] These nerfs are testicle-crushing, Bungie. What's the -blam!-ing point anymore to even trying at PvE?[/quote] [/spoiler] [b]TIMBO FFS[/b]: (listed in spoiler, rep exp nerfed) [spoiler] [quote]Earning half of what you used to earn for Faction XP, and earning a load of Vanguard/Crucible XP, twice what you get for Factions, WHEN I DON'T EVEN WANT IT!!!!!! GIVE ME MY FACTION XP FFS!!!!!! Not announced in any update, or stream. So nobody tell me it was, cos it isn't. nobody said @you will get 50% of what you used to get. Nobody. They kept it hidden. Because they knew they're screwing people like me over, the hardcore players who exclusively level factions.[/quote] [/spoiler] [b]RECTOR DEATH[/b]:(orbs ninja nerfed) [spoiler][quote]FRIGGEN ORB GENERATION!!!!!!! I am on the striker Titan quest and I use my fist of havoc in omnibus strike, kill 2 majors (one captian one knight) and a few thrall and dregs and generate... THREE STINKING ORBS!!!!!!!! I THOUGHT MAJORS GENERATED FOUR BUT I GOT THREW FROM KILLING TWO MAJORS, WHAT THE FRIGGEN HECK they needed fist of havoc orb production[/quote] [/spoiler] [b]SNOWDOG X1[/b]: [quote]QBB says it has 3 in the mag, but it clearly doesnt...[/quote] [b]MONTAINYA[/b]: [quote]Nerfed xur's heavy ammo package from 5 for 1sc to 3 for 1sc.... Wtf!!??!![/quote] [b]REKCUTOR[/b]:(Vex mag glitch) [spoiler][quote]Yah GG for -blam!-ing over pve you -blam!-tards. Shotguns suck and the vex only has a 3 shot mag really? -blam!- you guys, way to overdue the changes tell all the -blam!- boys down in the lab they got -blam!- boy of the year awards for nerfing the shit outta everything.[/quote] [/spoiler] [b]BUFFEL SAFT[/b]:(Vex perk failures) [spoiler][quote]Send It on the Vex Mythoclast reads "Increases range and accuracy. Harder to handle. Decreases carried ammo capacity." However, because of the way Fusion Rifle range and accuracy work, the shitty handling it adds [i]decreases[/i] both of these stats instead while also applying the penalties. It's not even a perk anymore.[/quote] [/spoiler]

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  • They added luck in the chamber to some sniper rifles. This isn't necessarily a ninja change but I though it worth mentioning this creates a year 2 final round. If your interested I have a sniper with luck in the chamber equipped on my hunter

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  • I want all the weapons in Destiny to match this. Then let the crying begin. Forgive my aim. I'm a little out of practice these days.

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  • Ninja Changes: 1. Only some hand cannons got their mag sizes reduced 2. Clown cartridge has been disabled for rocket launchers (and assumedly every other gun with the perk too) 3. Field scout now only affects reserve ammo capacity (you -blam!-ing assholes)

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    • Destiny is not about progression but keeping you playing. No game I've ever encountered make all your gear drop by half their attack and defence value.

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      • Shotgun's nerfed.. LOL Last word hip fire accuracy buffed… LOL

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      • Warlock melee range nerfed, scorch no longer one shots in radiance (crucible)

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      • Mayhem clash, why? I've seen people asking for a game mode without supers, so they go the other way and make a game mode that's all supers and heavy.

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        • Bungie's development team hard at work.

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          • Edited by DestinysInBeta: 9/11/2015 5:23:12 PM
            More grind added to pad playtime on weak (short) content, more forced pvp content (gunsmith), still no OMM for a game built around making a group, way more to list but sick of bungivision bullshit. 5 important things to remember 1) The game is meant to lure children (emo looking aliens, punk rock lookin robots [what robot needs a Mohawk or dull spikes on their head], and humans with no haircut that is realistic, half of them look like he-man was the tower barber) no local chat, like ESO has, allowing the game to be rated t for tamed 2) the dev's put more focus on firing guns then building quality levels and story, seriously the "lure"(lore) behind the weapons and armor is more detailed then the actual story, example of this would be them adding 42 new space ships to the house of wolves, more than any other item for that dlc, that's 42 of something no one can use, they had a small team work on redesigning the purple ball in the tower for [u]3 weeks[/u], that's time they could've used to work on a better house of wolves story or raid, who knows what happened during dark blow(below), that raid had a loading screen after the first check point lol. 3) Even though so much focus has been put on firing a weapon or running around all of the weapons and missions have just been reskinned or run backwards, this isn't fooling anyone but kids. 4) Constantly focusing on rebalances instead of balancing up, balance up means when you release new content you make it stronger than the last. What they did was rebalance the old weapons to be weaker than the new ones and the new ones to be where the old ones were or slightly above, all this does is pad play time because you're already fighting bullet sponge bosses, however, when you [u]balance up[/u] you make stronger weapons, which makes killing bullet sponge bosses easier, this is what leveling up should feel like. 5) when you take content like nightfall and heroic and lock it behind level 40 and then lock level 40 behind the taken king and lock all year 1 players at level 34 you force them to buy the product, it's one thing to make someone stronger for buying new product it's another thing to lock them out of something they've been playing since the launch of the game for not buying it. this is a disgusting business practice and you should be ashamed of yourselves(bungie), as for the people who bought it, I completely understand because you enjoy the game and want to stay relevant however don't be surprised when people blame you for encouraging this bullshit business practice by preordering, preordering just encourages this nonsense, without adding much content. Sad part is the list keeps growing and is much bigger than 5 items, I really wish bungie would take a hard look at the way they develop a game, many other games are doing amazing things and some of them are even doing it free. Anyone who broke their addiction to destiny, went out and tried some of the new games out there, knows that destiny is slowly being left behind in the dust. #Farcry4 #MetalGearSolid5 #FALLOUT4 #NoMansSky #Uncharted4 #On&on&on&on...

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            • Definitely the Heart of the Praxic Fire nerf and Xûr's heavy ammo/strange coin inflation.

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              • Hello fellow Guardians, Two things that I do not like from this patch: 1. No Field Scout perks... I am scout rifle guy on PvE and it was annoying not have it on my iryut fang. 2. shotgun nerf. I was like "whaaat..." when it took me more time to kill a Fallen Captain than usual. I believe close combat fire weapons should do a lot a damage, right?, and that's not happening. Yesterday, I felt very optimistic and try these new changes... I was like "I will do the weekly heroics on my 3 characters", but just after I noticed these above two things... I've just stopped, quit, and started to play something else. Some ppl believe this nerf changes apply to Year 1 weapons only... but I think this will apply to year 2 as well... having said that, I expect no great things with TTK weapons. However, I'm looking forward to see this fixed soon. Calm down, I'm not loosing hope & faith in Destiny yet. Best Regards,

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                • Ok they reduced the damage on all weapons so your "they lied about nerfing shotguns in PvE" complaint makes no sense. They do 10% less damage PLUS the weapon power decrease.

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                • Nothing

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                • Edited by WINTER PROPHET: 9/13/2015 4:33:19 PM
                  Hey guys and gals.... I appreciate the input on dysfunctional changes in the 2.0 update. Please bare in mind that glitches are not based on "opinions of how you believe something should have been". I'll always appreciate opinions that conform to a respectable viewpoint, but please remember this thread is for Bungie to see a compiled list of what isn't working post 2.0 patch. And [b]THANK YOU[/b] for your contributions, if you have video of any glitches or dysfunctional changes please share the links and they will be added to the original post, and very quite possibly a video for later archiving. -WP

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                • I've been noticing the background music glitch when normal playing.

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                • Bump

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                • Edited by LONE RONIN2012: 9/10/2015 4:21:04 PM
                  Bump This bullshit doesn't surprise me at all. Every day I come in to check the forums I am happy that I can read this crap without stress, as I happily play ESO, GTA, BF4, and more often World of Tanks. I have lost all respect for Bungie as a company after this money grab casino sham of a 'game' Destiny is. There is no other FPS game that -blam!- with, ruin, and/or make a players time in game completely useless. Spare me the MMO RPG BS excuse too. Destiny is NOT an MMO, or an RPG, and if you think it is go play an MMO. Destiny is nothing more than a barely social FPS game that Bungie took ideas that benefit Bungie, and disadvantage the player, then hide behind the lame MMO excuse, and their bullshit adhesive contract EULA they change at will. Anything to -blam!- the player base over. This bullshit was done for the reason of everything else showing in Bungie's pattern of buy the DLC or piss off. And they wonder why their business and sales are dropping. Maybe at 40 I'm getting old, but I remember when games were amusing and entertaining. Classics even before the days of Halo, like Unreal, Doom, Battlefront 2, Original Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, etc. Unbeatable games like Pac Man, River Raid, Missile Command, and Buck Rodgers on the old Atari. Back when games were worth the money you paid for them, not how much money can we make cutting them up as small as they can, and generally screwing the players for profit.

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                  • All pulse rifles had their mag sizes increased

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                    • Edited by eternal_napalm: 9/12/2015 8:38:27 PM
                      Went to use my void Harm's Way LMG and saw it only now carries 58 rounds per magazine instead of 100. All of my weapons will be obsolete in 3 days after spending 750 hours grinding...just one character. NERFSTINY

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                      • Edited by Xii Alpha iiXx: 9/12/2015 7:43:47 PM
                        Blink shotgun (both nerfs) are irrelevant since Last word has been driven into the ground. For those who like to snipe we have a very limited opportunities in terms of close range primary weapons to counter blink shotgunners. And yet the drop off of weapons is absolutely insane. I have been using No Land (which they screwed up royally besides the damage increase. Really unless you used this gun before hand, it really has been changed for the worst. Removing the second iron sight inside the outer circle makes long range sniping much more difficult among other things. The sway [i]was a good thing![/i]) with a shotty and find myself using the shotty much more then before despite the supposed nerfs to shotties and Blink. Honestly I may just start to run Universal Remote with a sniper. If I could run Universal Remote and No Land I would love it. The Meta is very different. The Meta now is about how fast you can move (which had always been important). Agility is more important then any power weapon in the game hence why The Multi-tool is such a beast. Although the meta is new and different I find it incredibly tedious and strenuous.

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                        • Fusion rifles have entirely too much damn range. You get the shots off on the person only for them to vaporize you half way across the map.

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                          • I can't stand the new magazine sizes.... Way too tiny

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                            • They have magazine issues across the board. If a weapon has a perk of casket mag or high capacity mags the magazine hold capacity does not increase. The magazine quantity stays the same if you pick the perk or leave it standard. It is a failure to address the issue with the perks a weapon has. They just release the next DLC, then maybe will fix whatever. Been like this since this game was new.

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                              • I would add fact that now, at least on PS3 (sorry no money to buy PS4 for some time) game is either lagging, or is going around on sweet rush. Why Bungie, it used to run smoothly until 2.0

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                                  Bungie is suffering from dementia because Bungie repeats to take the same mistakes. Or Bungie is the one of the most incompetent company in the 21st century.

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                                  • Digital download collectors edition..$120 Took about two days to arrive at postmaster, open up rewards and only 2 of 3 exotic class items arrived.. Missing titan piece?? No idea if it's missing or just random. How to fix it?? Very poorly done considering the price paid.

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