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8/20/2015 6:56:06 PM
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New Light On The Crucible: The Good vs. Bad Players (what the good players think we are)

I made this post not too long ago, got some good attention to change up my game in the Crucible. Here's what I've compiled so far in the last 10 games in Crucible before another controller was broken. AND YES I rage, but don't we all at some point? For the past 10 or so games on my Hunter, I've come to being the top player in most of the games that I've played. I've been running the "Six Dreg Pride" Hand Cannon, "Matador 64" Shotgun, and an old "Deviant Gravity-A" Machine Gun. I had compiled a few sweet kills on my Elgato and will be uploading them soon to Youtube as part of another montage, but before I could finish, I ended up in a game full of "Lighthouse Try-hards" (is what I like to call them). First off, ALL 4 of them were either using Last Word, Red Death, or Thorn. They were comprised of 1 Warlock, 1 Titan, and 2 Hunters. They all had blink, Titan had Bubble. Our entire team of 6 would struggle against these guys that were using the Blink/Shotgun combo that ALL of these try-hards use in Trials. The titan would use his bubble on the control objectives with another Judgement VI shotgun and camp at the center control point B. So it was very difficult to get any objective, especially when it's 6 on 4. I finally gave up because nearly every fight I had encountered with one of these guys ended up in getting shot down by one of the shotguns. I would get shot by a thorn here and there, but only to get tracked down and hit by yet ANOTHER shotgun. Now let me ask you this last thing Guardians, HOW IS IT that we call these players "GOOD" in any way? They are using the same top 3 weapons in the game, but only kill those with shotguns. I use Red Death when it's needed, but the Hand Cannon can 3 shot a guy from a distance if shots hit the head. The exotics are a HUGE problem in the Crucible. I'm not saying exotics are bad, they're supposed to be OP. But calling someone "good" because they use Thorn or Last Word or shotguns as the only gun in their arsenal? It's ridiculous! It's stupid! I've been called BAD because I don't use these guns as much as I should. Bull crap. I had decimated the competition by using only legendary weapons AND a machine gun. I only use the shotgun as a last resort, so the primary is always sitting out getting all the kills. Rockets don't get more than maybe 4 kills (depends if you get multikills with 1 shot or not), so Machine Guns can get 10-15 kills with just one Heavy drop. The exotics in PvP have ruined Crucible. Now go ahead, make all your remarks and hateful comments. Bungie is watching and will decide if you get banned or not for the mistreatment of another player. Haters gonna hate, but always end up getting the boot. I know my Crucible score is low, but WHO CARES!? I have an average K/D, higher than most that have over a million score on their profile. I want the positive input to see how you think exotics should change, or get removed completely, in the Crucible. Or have a competitive playlist that has NO EXOTICS in play at all. Let me and everyone know what you think.

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  • [quote]I've been running the "Six Dreg Pride" Hand Cannon[/quote] EQUALS [quote] Here's what I've compiled so far in the last 10 games in Crucible before another controller was broken.[/quote]

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  • I still don't understand why people like you get salty because people use the best weapons available. Why would I intentionally put myself at a disadvantage?

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  • All handcannons I'm aware of 3 shot people with headshots. My Devil You Know is a 3 shot head shot or a 2 headshot with crowd control on. Thorn is a 2 shot head shot gun all day every day. That's what is over powering about it. I feel your frustration, but if you're not playing the meta game, you can get great games, but you'll never be able to stand in the same arena as a great player who is strategically using the best weapons available. You chose to be at a disadvantage.

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  • I ran around yesterday using my Gunslinger, with a Monte Carlo, a LDR, and a rocket launcher that did not have grenades and horseshoes and in a couple games ended up with a 1.15, and a 1.5 against thorns, lw and shotguns =D

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  • Edited by Legendary Hero: 8/20/2015 7:07:02 PM
    You're just a typical gamer who can't accept that somebody is better than you, which is understandable. In no way is it possible that people could manage that because you are the best, an elite, a God amongst mortals. If people have higher K/Ds than you, they must be non-contributing campers who only use devious tactics and means to boost their stats. There's absolutely no way that you, THE ONE AND ONLY ANONYMOUSJAMSK8, could anybody ever outshine you.

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    • "Good" is a loose term I think. But let me ask you this... are you "good" for continuing to lose to the same things? I completely agree that it's a shame that we have to see the same guns over and over again in Trials. I personally use the last word (with sniper at least)... I'd much rather use a different gun. I don't consider myself "good" for using it, but I would consider myself "bad" if I failed to adjust to the terms of the other winning teams. So in other words, I consider "good" and "bad" based on mind/strategy..... if you consistently lose all the time and you haven't decided to switch anything up, that is bad in my opinion. Not attacking you at all, just my honest thought.

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    • Meta.

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    • I play with hardcore PvP'ers often and I can tell you that these guns are all you see. What classifies skill between us? If I can consistently outgun you with TLW when you are also using TLW, then I am better than you. If I am consistently out Thorning you when you are using Thorn then I am better than you. This is the meta at the moment. Use Thorn, TLW or expect to be outgunned. Don't come to the forums complaining that people are not skilled. Why would I ever purposely put myself at a disadvantage against another enemy?

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      • I think the meta is universal remote it's super fun to use.

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      • Im lighthouse 12 times. I use either messenger or timepiece with efrideets and radegasts. Not all of us are tryhards.

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      • I don't think all exotics are overpowered, I just think the main offenders are Red Death (stability is too high for it's exotic perk but other than that it's pretty balanced (and by the way I use this on my warlock a lot, I'll admit)), Thorn (the time to kill is insane (I also have this on my warlock but rarely use it (I mainly just use it for PvE))), and the Last Word (also has an insane time to kill and I almost never use it anymore).

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        • Yeah. It's like they can only go flawless with thorn. But it's not my place to say, I'm good in regular crucible, but I haven't tried Trials yet.

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