Granted that the newer members don't 'Get it', I am beginning to think the problem lays within the confines of Bungie Towers. They are the ones who wiped clean the slate. The old community was encouraged and reminded of it's style and heritage in many ways and when the site update came, that was promptly removed. Bungie are not the same company we used to know and as disappointed as I am, I think that it is a result of it's ever growing nature. Perhaps once you get to 300+ employees, you can't really call yourself a rebel, kick-ass game developer. You have to put on the corporate big-boy pants to manage a studio of that size and capability. Bungie seems to be ok with that too. We aren't though. We used to be the favourite child and our siblings had long grown up and moved away from home by the time we came along (most of us anyway). The older siblings (The original community behind the earlier games) still came and visited and played with us like good siblings do and everything was good for a time. Destiny was born though, and now it's getting all the toys and love and we feel neglected. We had to move to a new house, we dealt with a divorce and us developing our own ideas on how things should work in the world, as we should. I'm not saying that we are entitled though. We earned our right to be apart of the Bungie story by giving them our valuable time and money, supporting them by purchasing their products and being an active, loyal and involved community. Looking at the state of things, you could be forgiven for thinking that they tossed the baby out with the bathwater at times. I don't hate the new kids. I generally like this community in a broad sense. I believe that Bungie needs to step in here though, and remind the new arrivals of how our family works rather than let them run amock. We deserve to be acknowledged too. Bungie used to sell the rockstar gimmick to anyone who would listen. Our community used to stand out on the internet as far a video game forums are concerned. Bring back our heritage. Bring back the irreverent and juvenile humour. Bring back the guiding wisdom of the Ninjas, the Employees and the wisest community members. We are members of the Septagon. That used to mean something.