Without cheesing, which hard raid checkpoint do you find to be most difficult?
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The confluxes. All you need to do is not die, but people seem to have trouble with it.
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Deathsinger on hard is challenging, only 3 or less ppl make it out after she dies
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The Bridge on Crota's End. Legit. No cheese. Cheesing the bridge is a cake walk though.
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Confluxes really guys... I voted Templar mainly cause CROTA is only hard cause it's glitchy.
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Edited by jasonchella: 2/22/2015 6:45:21 AMCrota bridge probably. can't believe how many are saying confluxes..
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Confluxes and oracles are just tedious and long
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Templar. But that's because I'm an overachiever and try to keep the templar from ever teleporting.
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I have to say it's between Crota and the Confluxes. Hear me out..... For Crota, ONE person can do 80% of the work. If I'm Swordbearer, I can kill the Swordbearer, help shoot rockets at Crota, and attack Crota when he's down. It's quite simple, just needs spot on execution. For Confluxes, I can't be in 3 places at once. My skill might be superb but if the other 2 confluxes are getting fûcked, there's nothing I can do.
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Crota checkpoint isn't hard. It's frustrating as -blam!- when you can't nail it... But it's not hard by any means. Being swarmed by asshole vex while defending the confluxes with first timers or even experienced 32s is hard as -blam!-.
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Templar with a bunch of Christmas noobs
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I did atheon today, and every one of our wipes were because of bugs. teleporting with detainment shield, having it teleport 5 of us with one person dead, portals not opening, confluxes not taking damage, harpies(i cant forget their special name) but those guys not dying until they blew themselves up, and the relic not shielding(not splash damage i mean atheon was shooting through the shield) and cleansing not working.
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Mannnn i do g know about you but crota is always -blam!-ing hard.
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You've got to be kidding me. People think Crota is that difficult? The only difficult part about that engagement is the glitches you run into. But I think the Templar or deathsinger are the hardest.
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Confluxes are easy, I get stuck on Athlon when my group doesn't know how to hold the relic, which is far too often..
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When I get random groups off LFG we always have a tough time with hard oracles. even when we try to cheese it from up top, there will be like 3 people with trash snipers, so we wipe over and over until I leave.
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Its not hard that wasn't the question. The question was challenging but a better word would be frustrating. And yes both Crota and the Confluxes are challenging or frustrating. Not because of the difficulty though. Its always the team. Someone sucks beyond words and screws everyone over. Other than that neither raid or any parts are hard. You just meed a good team
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Lol how tf is Crota winning xD
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I find it surprising that the confluxes is in such a lead, that is easily the easiest part of the whole raid for me, always first try it and solo right side by myself, it's really the only fun part cause I can stomp on gobs lol. Templar was, and is, the hardest for me. I have NEVER been able to first try Templar even with perfect raiders.
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I had to think long and hard between Deathsinger and Templar on hard I feel Deathsinger on hard is more frustrating because you have a timer of 3 minuets as well as infinite lvl 33 enemy spawn till you get her killed and even then it's still not over and turns into a boar of just killing adds
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If you said crota you're awful.....
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Crotas #1 ? Lol wtf you all are bad
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Conflux definitely the hardest even though it isn't that hard.
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Nothing
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Crota is the hardest IMO, but it isn't really hard at all since I have a good team. With an LFG team, Crota is the hardest no questions asked.
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Bridge not cheesing and having connection issues
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Gatekeeper If not everyone is comfortable in their positions and the 2 people going into gates aren't careful, this can be a nightmare.